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09-21-2013 , 05:53 AM
what's wrong with anal sex?
09-21-2013 , 07:01 AM
anal sex is a good consideration for anyone
09-21-2013 , 07:09 AM
Its wild and wont cause no child
09-21-2013 , 01:54 PM
I put up two proposals in the Stars meeting thread: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...8/index16.html

1) I would like to see the VIP tiers re-adjusted. The regular VIP level requirements increase in 3x to 5x increments. I don't understand why there are only two annual VIP levels, and they are 10x(!) apart. Once you get to SN, there is not that much of an incentive to grind more than you need to. You only get an extra 1,5% per 100K vpps in rakeback, after all. There needs to be some kind of 300K-400K intermediary annual tier. This way, you can preserve the 3+x multiplier between levels. Perhaps you can bump the FPP multiplier to 4x. I realize this is going to cost PS money. But just as PS makes money from people going for SN and SNE, I think you will find additional activity from people going for this new reward level - give players a reason to play more!

2) Rather than impose restrictions on table selecting, I like the idea of rewarding people who DON'T table select. You can change the behavior of players on the margin by changing the reward structure. Currently, you offer a 5,5x VPP multiplier (per $ rake) on most tables. Why don't you offer only "4,5x" VPPs on a "regular" table and "6,5x" on Zoom and if someone uses table starters and STAYS on the table? This should work well on Zoom. It's not clear to me if table starters tables will die out faster in the current system. So you may need to implement a "random seating" feature (also paying 6,5x) that will fill in any empty seats on a table starter that has started to break. You can obviously adjust the numbers as necessary to keep the total rewards about the same, or retinker to have the "table selectors" pay for part of Suggestion #1.

The second suggestion, in conjunction with the first suggestion should help maintain an environment where the players are incentivised to play as much as possible. And the people "paying" for all these benefits would be the aggressive table selectors.

Can you +1 if you like it? I can't see how anyone would have an objection to #1.
09-21-2013 , 02:19 PM
No issues with 1 ldo but I sincerely doubt 2 would ever happen. I'm also not sure lowering the VPP/$ would change many players behaviour either.
09-21-2013 , 06:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninja666
6) Organize big live tournament, invite just pro shortstackers only + BrickFakinT, location: Syria
lol
09-22-2013 , 04:43 AM
What about a VPP multiplier that is decided on a case-to-case player-by-player basis? For example, a bumhunter has 3x multiplier where as a reg who plays every line up has a 5.5x multiplier, or someone in between can have a 4.5x multiplier. Obviously kinda hard to implement but def good for the games.
09-22-2013 , 08:38 AM
non of these things are ever gonna happen. stars made it very clear that they are looking for simple solutions.
09-22-2013 , 10:01 AM
More VPP for zoom +1
09-22-2013 , 11:50 AM
these are pretty simple simple solutions - all you are doing is assigning a different multiplier for different games and table sessions - this is currently done for 6max vs FR anyway. have you read their ratholing solution? wtf at all the carry time with you over x number of hours, sort list from high to low, etc.
09-22-2013 , 11:58 AM
Yeah, simple solution would be more vpps for Zoom.
09-22-2013 , 06:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninja666
Well... I guess that could be applied to anal sex too... While having it, YOU wouldn't face problems described at #1 and #2. Fallowing your logic that if zoom is good enoug solution for solving those problem, then anal sex should be good consideration for you too.:/
I wanted to hear why would you ban zoom if you don't mind.
09-22-2013 , 08:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nice_2_Beat_U
what's wrong with anal sex?
fecal matter on penis. not for everyone. I should have put that on a "most interesting guy" meme, but i'm too lazy.
09-22-2013 , 09:45 PM
A lot of you are aware already but the 2p2 player meeting votes are being placed at the moment and I am running. I would appreciate any votes and support from you guys, I am primarily a Zoom 6-max NLHE player but have quite a few connections to people who play FR (and I know a lot of you guys play 6-max anyway). I went last time and promise to bring forward suggestions and comments from you guys as well as push issues that are clearly present already. I fought pretty heavily against the short-stacker abundance especially in FR last time and also fought hard against the suggestion of letting people go South brought up by another member. I also talked quite a lot about the bumhunting situation, seating scripts (which I will continue to fight against), buttoning/grimming, etc. As a cash player who has a lot of friends who play cash I know the issues better than any of the other candidates imo and even though I also am confident about other areas I am pretty knowledgeable in, I am specifically posting in the cash forums since I think I will be the best choice to represent you.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...users-1373965/

if anyone has any questions, please feel free send me a PM

*MissOracle on Stars

Last edited by OMGClayDol; 09-22-2013 at 10:00 PM.
09-22-2013 , 10:04 PM
gl, I'm sure you'll win the vote
09-22-2013 , 10:48 PM
I vote for the Oracle, gl
09-23-2013 , 01:23 AM
fff Oracle, Go Emirates Team NZ!
09-23-2013 , 01:45 AM
Who of those guys is playing regular games only, because i wouldnt expect anything good from zoom player. He would defend zoom and I don't like that.
09-23-2013 , 01:54 AM
seems most people don't really take you seriously but just in case..

lol none of those guys play nl cash on stars.

last time i did my job, which was to act as a player representative, not fight for my own interests and i will do the same this time. it was mentioned a couple times that zoom only has been considered (this is public on the forums) and i didn't push for that when it came up because i know a lot of people don't want that for many reasons and the problems it solved can likely be solved in other ways.

i like having zoom and regular tables both as an option, wouldn't want to remove either. plus i have a lot of friends in the poker community who play a lot of regular tables (or even mostly) and there is zero chance i'd screw them over like that :S
09-23-2013 , 02:16 AM
K, then I will wote for u :|
Somebody asked before Why I don't like zoom,
Well actually that is true, I don't like zoom. While it has FEW good features it also has more worse features.
a) I have subjective opinion that it makes poker less true poker, because of dynamic shift and some other things
b) It has some very strong negative effects at some particular areas. While those things are actually technical things, but those are very closely related to mindset area. I do not play zoom myself, but I have plenty people arround that does that and I see those problems there. And most of the time problems are more serious than they think.
c) For some reasons it is not good for me. And to tune it to suit me I would lose value. (No, no, no- it is not Tableselection only- there is much more criterias that I rely on).

As always I will not provide exact details, because I dont want to coach others or others getting rid leaks + I don't want to reveal my own weaknesses.
09-23-2013 , 02:21 AM
i mean in terms of offering poker i do agree it's less "real" than regular games. the rest of what you said is kind of just a matter of preference, there are upsides and downsides of regular tables and zoom, and i think there is no reason both options shouldn't be available for players to choose.
09-24-2013 , 05:13 AM
just vote for him, he's the only one repping for cash players

gl sir
09-26-2013 , 11:40 AM
New to stars. Is there a cost for the currency converts?

edit. mean between playing accounts not from bank account
09-26-2013 , 12:00 PM
No there isn't
09-28-2013 , 12:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OMGClayDol
i mean in terms of offering poker i do agree it's less "real" than regular games. the rest of what you said is kind of just a matter of preference, there are upsides and downsides of regular tables and zoom, and i think there is no reason both options shouldn't be available for players to choose.
Forgive me for being blunt but if you have the balls please inform Stars to consider there online roster some of these sponsored clowns at higher levels are a ****ing disgrace.I vote yes for OMGclaydol if he has the nuts and not just some player puppet.

BTW i wanna see more scandinavian players in that online roster as everyone knows we are the best in the world not these nitty russian transvestite chicks and general morons
out of the circus de soleil.

Last edited by UnderCover_Pro; 09-28-2013 at 12:42 PM.

      
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