Button ($61.45)
Hero (SB) ($99.50)
BB ($90.15)
UTG ($98.50)
MP ($96.30)
CO ($170.43)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7, 7
UTG raises to $1, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.75, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.50) K, 7, 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.50, Hero raises to $6, UTG raises to $18.50


V: 30/22 (154)

How would he played his range before his 3bet?


EDIT: He insta 3betted

i dont understand this question. but for the hand... just 4bet/call imo?

Like: How do you think he plays TPTK/Overpair/Draws/Bluffcatchers (98s or something)

Why do we 4bet here?

Remember his preflop raise size

i dont understand the question.

we're 4betting for value and to avoid getting our money in bad on a diamond turn.

did he minraise UTG?? Does that polarize his range towards XYZ?? Or does he do that often? Doubt he would insta3bet KK here, probably would at least think about betsizing lol, but he might insta3bet AK or AA.

Definately 4betting this OOP, it has to be about the only way to do it..

Ok.

Let's say villain has this range: AdXd/9d8d/Td9d/6d5d.

How often do you think he plays like this with this range?

Please say something about his timingtell and betsizing.

instapot3bet is strange doesnt make sense in any way imo... just dont give it too much credit

villian can stack of with any FD, AK, few oesds many 2pairs (given stats)

this is an easy 4bet/call for value i still dont get your point sorry

If you're this upset with the min-raise pre and the timing tell...

Just call the 3-bet. Bet/push safe turns, check/call diamond turns if he prices you in to fill up.

I'm in the 4-bet/call camp on the flop though... if he has KK, so be it.

Is Ks9s in a 30/22's range UTG? And I think you can definitely give him AK also... aggro-donks can 3-bet TPTK over a check/raise, I used to lol.

Timingtell is something that could help us say something about his range.

Ok. I dont know how to explain it better.

What 4bet size?

it doesnt matter for equity reasons since you are committet anyway

but i like to make it 40 that he can shove his draws "with FE"
you can shove yourself to look more like a draw too

You think its spewy to push here?

ninja edit

shove is certainly not "spewy" but my standard play is to give him odds and the impression of FE (the more of a thinking player he is the more im on the shove side)

What do you think is a suitable comittment limit when thinking about "stack to pot ratio", or effective stacks? Assuming eventual turns and rivers is blanks. This is maybe depending on line. If so, then describe the optimal line that include a fold.

u insta 4bet

I think the Villain has AK, AA, or a flush draw. Without history it's hard to evaluate the preflop bet size and the snap-3bet.
I 4bet to ~40. AK and AA would be tempted to call, and the flush draw would be tempted to shove.

4bet size = 33-35

im not sure if you understand that we have a monster and are obv. never folding

OP is asking whether or not it's smart to 4-bet here. A lot of villains will fold AK or even AA to a 4-bet, knowing that 1 pair is never good here.

So is the optimal line:
1) 4-bet to $33-35 (Ksight) / $40 (Loki)
2) call / CRAI turn
3) call / lead turn ~$20/30/40 (PSB = $40)

Fold is never an option. Sorry. And I've never ever seen an insta-3 bet with a flush draw. I've definitely seen 3b's with a FD, but never insta.

I'm voting for call / lead turn $30. I almost never take this line, 'cause the guy has to have a hand he's not folding to a bet, but probably folds to a C/R, and it can look like we're blocking against a draw, and it sets up for a must call river. This is that spot.

The only thing I read into his large insta 3 bet is that he likes his hand. My thought process in this spot would be, "Oh, he likes his hand? I like my hand too. Lets 4 bet and work on putting all the monies in so we can compare hands." I don't think this hand is any more complicated than that.

villian is 30/22 he will neverever lay down AA or AK

but it doesnt really matter since he can have quite a few 2pair combos too

i dont see them

My thoughts.

Did you count on that the stack to pot ratio is 40? The stack to pot ratio with normal pots (normal pfr) and 100 bbs is 10.

i insta calls here, u beat most hands in equity, even flush draw, your flipping with combo draws, other than that its oversets, i think i'll ship here most of the time and lets hope its not set over set

raise here, do u always fold sets when someone raises u?
if ur not comfortable playing 200bbs deep, leave the damn table