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NL50. 3bpott w JJ ip. Dont have the balls on river?... NL50. 3bpott w JJ ip. Dont have the balls on river?...

01-20-2015 , 03:34 PM
I think this is a really tricky hand and I just love it.

MP biggest fish ever 63/10 call every iso.

SB: 303 hands, 20/16, 3b 7%, cbet in 3bpott 100%, weak regish type

BB: $51.50
UTG: $74.52
MP: $44.67
Hero (CO): $54.15
BTN: $50.00
SB: $51.38

SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has J J

fold, MP calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.00, fold, SB raises to $6.50, fold, fold, Hero calls $4.50

Flop: ($14.00, 2 players) T 9 8
SB checks, Hero bets $7.00, SB calls $7.00

Turn: ($28.00, 2 players) 2
SB checks, Hero bets $13.00, SB calls $13.00

River: ($54.00, 2 players) T
SB checks, Hero checks,

Pre: I haved isolated the fish little to much and I figured that other player was little tilted about that.

The Sb player is little on the weaker side regish type. I had one a bigger pott against him early in the game.

I decided to call his 3b and play the pott ip.

Flop: when he xback the flop I just think he was giving upp the pott and just to take it down. Iam not sure if a should check back to on the flop. But just dont wanna give i a freecard if he have a hand like AK. I iam gonna be honest Idont really know what hand he plays like that. Are he really taking this line w a overpar? And I dont expect him to 3b me pre w a hand like TT-88..

Turn: Maybe it would have been better to xb the turn.

River: when the T comes on the river. I was really thinking of to make my hand into a bluff even if a can win on a showdown, I really think he going to fold AA-QQ if a jam the river

Iam so confused in this hand.

Last edited by Hellswe; 01-20-2015 at 03:50 PM.
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01-20-2015 , 03:47 PM
Do not jam this river as a bluff I don't think he is ever folding AA-QQ here ever especially with his stats. His line is so strange because if he does have an over pair I would think he his never checking back this flop. A competent player here would bet all the overpairs and sets on a board this connected but he is a fish so you never know. Like the check back on the turn as I dont think he is calling unless he has you beat.
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01-20-2015 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by cantor1987
Do not jam this river as a bluff I don't think he is ever folding AA-QQ here ever especially with his stats. His line is so strange because if he does have an over pair I would think he his never checking back this flop. A competent player here would bet all the overpairs and sets on a board this connected but he is a fish so you never know. Like the check back on the turn as I dont think he is calling unless he has you beat.
Sorry SB: is a 20/16 weak regish type.
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01-20-2015 , 03:53 PM
Easy River check, villain could easily have Tx with this line... No need to turn your hand into a bluff your hand is good a decent percentage of the time

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01-20-2015 , 03:53 PM
Bet smallish on the river to try and get paid off by his AK.
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01-20-2015 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Hellswe
Sorry SB: is a 20/16 weak regish type.
Yep sorry misread it.
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01-20-2015 , 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerSparky
Bet smallish on the river to try and get paid off by his AK.
With Heros line do you think he ever pays him off on this board with ace high? I see no point in Value betting this river
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01-20-2015 , 04:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cantor1987
Yep sorry misread it.

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01-20-2015 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by cantor1987
With Heros line do you think he ever pays him off on this board with ace high? I see no point in Value betting this river
A river bet on this board would look suspicious to many regs IMO. I could be convinced a river bet is too thin though.
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01-20-2015 , 04:58 PM
AK XF the flop. Betting river is far too thin.

I think X turn, betting river is better, not too sure. A hand sample on that 'cbet 3 bet pot' stat is really useful to determine turn play imo.
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01-20-2015 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoshimiii
AK XF the flop. Betting river is far too thin.I think X turn, betting river is better, not too sure. A hand sample on that 'cbet 3 bet pot' stat is really useful to determine turn play imo.
This doesn't make sense?
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01-20-2015 , 05:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshimiii
AK XF the flop. Betting river is far too thin.

I think X turn, betting river is better, not too sure. A hand sample on that 'cbet 3 bet pot' stat is really useful to determine turn play imo.

He have Cbet in 3bpott 1/1 flop.Turn Cbet dont have statistic on that stat..
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01-20-2015 , 05:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cantor1987
This doesn't make sense?
Betting river as played is too thin. X turn and betting river would not be too thin.
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01-20-2015 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoshimiii
Betting river as played is too thin. X turn and betting river would not be too thin.
Sorry mate can you break it down for me, might sound stupid but I'm learning myself. I don't see how as played the value bet is too thin. But if he checks the turn and value bets the river how that makes it not too thin? Anything to do with the size of the pot? That if he bets turn and river he's not likely to get both streets as value by a worse hand?
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01-20-2015 , 07:10 PM
I am saying if we bet/bet/bet it's too thin because we get stacks in.

I am suggesting bet/check/bet which I think is fine and would not get stacks in.

Betting all 3 streets narrows villain's calling range down significantly because he has to have a stronger hand to call more bets.
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01-20-2015 , 07:14 PM
check turn, decide what to do on rivers

As played, I'd bluff if you think he folds QQ+ which is a big part of his range atm.



On a side note, if MP is a huge fish I'd just make my sizing pre 1bb bigger and go to 2.50
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01-20-2015 , 07:47 PM
wp
don't bet river
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