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nl25 zoom guy calls 4-bet nl25 zoom guy calls 4-bet

12-12-2014 , 10:57 AM
I was on tilt and i have to go back to Nl10 i think, because **** happens and my br dropped today from 600 to 525.
A guy who 3-bettet a ton 3-bet me and i 4-bet with KTo and he calls oop.
He calls on a Q high Board.
Turn check/check
River is an Ace, i shoved, wrong ?

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 5)
SB: 100.4 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
BB: 105 BB (VPIP: 27.05, PFR: 24.59, 3Bet Preflop: 17.78, Hands: 125)
UTG: 101.96 BB (VPIP: 17.02, PFR: 15.96, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 97)
MP: 75.16 BB (VPIP: 35.71, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
Hero (CO): 112.64 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K T

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.48 BB, fold, fold, BB raises to 8.4 BB, Hero raises to 19.6 BB, BB calls 11.2 BB

Flop: (39.6 BB, 2 players) 6 Q 2
BB checks, Hero bets 18.88 BB, BB calls 18.88 BB

Turn: (77.36 BB, 2 players) 3
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (77.36 BB, 2 players) A
BB checks, [color=red]Hero bets 74.16 BB and is all-
12-12-2014 , 11:06 AM
I'd just fold to his 3bet pre. 4 betting with K10o is really not necessary or profitable at 25/10nl and it gets u in spots like this. 4bet size is also to small imo
12-12-2014 , 11:15 AM
4betbluffing is definitely necessary at 25nlzoom imo. Hand is fine aswell. Would flat KTs.

As played the flopsize should be smaller, but I probably don't even cbet this flop. River as played looks like you should empty the clip to fold out 99-JJ and some Qx. Question is whether shipping or a smaller sizing is better, not sure.
12-12-2014 , 11:21 AM
The problem was, that i crushed today, lost 80 bucks, guy showed AKo, calling the flop, omg, dont think i should bet any street.
This was the 3. time a 4-bet was called oop, 2 times with AK and one time with AA, why the guys dont ship AK, is this variance or is this the new kind of playing style to trap like weak A 4-bet, normally i dont do anything when 4-bet bluffing and called and dont hit.
4-bet size is not small at all, calculate it, its much more then 2 times.
12-12-2014 , 12:50 PM
There are far better hands to 4bet with because villains calling range crushes us.

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12-12-2014 , 01:37 PM
I don't mind 4bet bluffing.

Dunno about flop, I guess he doesn't have AA/KK/AK much. Might be able to double barrel profitably but 1 barrel pry doesn't do much and you can go smaller otf, I generally do around 1/3p in position in a 4bp and 40% oop.

I think jamming river as played is insane. You don't even check turn and jam this river do you? Maybe AK???????
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