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01-23-2015 , 05:57 AM

ttpoker

centurion

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 111

PokerStars - $0.16 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 34.33, PFR: 32.84, 3Bet Preflop: 34.78, Hands: 69)
SB: 116.13 BB (VPIP: 15.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
Hero (BB): 137.13 BB
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 23.91, PFR: 23.91, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 48)
MP: 65.69 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
CO: 256.06 BB (VPIP: 41.18, PFR: 29.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (4.5 BB, 2 players) 2

Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (4.5 BB, 2 players) J

Hero checks, BTN bets 3 BB, Hero raises to 11 BB, BTN calls 8 BB

River: (26.5 BB, 2 players) 4

Hero bets 20 BB, BTN raises to 87 BB and is all-in

hero?

villain is not repping much imo rather than full house, or possibly only 77. would he make such a crazy bluff on riv?

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01-23-2015 , 08:53 AM

schamed

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 451

I think its an easy fold pre. Playing Q2 OOP is a massive disadvantage.

Don´t know how to act on this river. I consider folding would be fine. But he seems to be lose. Did u see him shoving river as a bluff bevor with a busted draw?

Maybe the 2+2 pros have more detailed opinion on that.

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01-23-2015 , 09:04 AM

CCM

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Hmm I think we have to call really. I think he can have worse trips and I've seen AA played like this before. So few combos beat us.

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01-23-2015 , 09:29 AM

Yoshimiii

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Call

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01-23-2015 , 10:00 AM

TWhelan

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pre fine
flop fine
turn fine although it depends how often you think he will delayed cbet on this particular card; betting turn yourself is best vs a lot of micro villains
river is annoying as a lot of guys will just never bluff there, but having said that we don't know too much about him still and he might be confused by our line and we have a pretty strong hand, so I would call

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01-23-2015 , 10:43 AM

schamed

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 451

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Originally Posted by TWhelan

pre fine

Can u please give me more detailed thoughts on it? I am still in a learning process and want to understand why flating this pre is fine.

Thinking about it makes more sense to me to 3-bet against such a lose villians min raise steal.

Thanks in advance.

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01-23-2015 , 02:37 PM

TWhelan

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Originally Posted by schamed

Thinking about it makes more sense to me to 3-bet against such a lose villians min raise steal.

If he has a loose opening range then Q2s is good enough to call vs a minraise imo. And if it's good enough to call then it doesn't really make sense to 3bet bluff instead.

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01-23-2015 , 02:59 PM

ttpoker

centurion

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 111

its a zoom table so villain had not much info...
pre is a bit margin but i think it is a ok hand to flat against but stealing range min raise, i agree river there is no bluff, but i think any trips will bet the flop. so the way that he check that flop means he either had nuts or air. and also i think he will gii on turn with trips against a suspicious check raise, really wanna hear more of u guys opinions.

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01-23-2015 , 03:21 PM

ForeverLearning

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Well it's a fold in theory, he's risking almost 2 to win 1 and you're close/at the bottom of your value range.

In practice, he's repping super thin and your line might have confused him. I'd call.

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01-23-2015 , 04:59 PM

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Brokenstars

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Pre is a very very easy call imo.

Looks like he's pretty aggressive so I think the line you took is good and I'd call the river.

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