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05-20-2008 , 10:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tmcdmck
what makes you say that? have i missed something?
Yes
05-20-2008 , 10:39 AM
Hello,

I wanted to improve my HU game this month so I played some 13k hands of 100NL HU. I think it went pretty well but what do you guys think about my stats? Please note that I play few regs and a lot of fish, of which most play with 30-50bb.

05-20-2008 , 10:41 AM
what are those stats? there are no labels.
05-20-2008 , 10:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by derosnec
what are those stats? there are no labels.
My attempt to ninja edit failed miserably
05-20-2008 , 11:04 AM
tnixon: can you tell me what i missed? or is it something you want to keep private? i dont want to be nosey, but im seriously curious.
05-20-2008 , 11:39 AM
Be nice to the fish guys, they'll end up giving you their money before they leave :

PokerStars Game #17564326126: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2008/05/20 - 11:30:19 (ET)
Table 'Myrrha IV' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: jordian ($139.80 in chips)
Seat 2: CheckMyRiver ($464.30 in chips)
jordian: posts small blind $1
CheckMyRiver: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to CheckMyRiver [Ad Kd]
jordian: raises $2 to $4
CheckMyRiver: raises $12 to $16
jordian: calls $12
*** FLOP *** [6h 7d Td]
CheckMyRiver: bets $22
jordian: calls $22
*** TURN *** [6h 7d Td] [Ah]
CheckMyRiver: bets $426.30 and is all-in
jordian said, "for you"
jordian: calls $101.80 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($324.50) returned to CheckMyRiver
*** RIVER *** [6h 7d Td Ah] [8s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
CheckMyRiver: shows [Ad Kd] (a pair of Aces)
jordian: mucks hand
CheckMyRiver collected $279.10 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $279.60 | Rake $0.50
Board [6h 7d Td Ah 8s]
Seat 1: jordian (button) (small blind) mucked [3d 4h]
Seat 2: CheckMyRiver (big blind) showed [Ad Kd] and won ($279.10) with a pair of Aces
05-20-2008 , 11:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by checktheriver
Be nice to the fish guys, they'll end up giving you their money before they leave :

PokerStars Game #17564326126: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2008/05/20 - 11:30:19 (ET)
Table 'Myrrha IV' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: jordian ($139.80 in chips)
Seat 2: CheckMyRiver ($464.30 in chips)
jordian: posts small blind $1
CheckMyRiver: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to CheckMyRiver [Ad Kd]
jordian: raises $2 to $4
CheckMyRiver: raises $12 to $16
jordian: calls $12
*** FLOP *** [6h 7d Td]
CheckMyRiver: bets $22
jordian: calls $22
*** TURN *** [6h 7d Td] [Ah]
CheckMyRiver: bets $426.30 and is all-in
jordian said, "for you"
jordian: calls $101.80 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($324.50) returned to CheckMyRiver
*** RIVER *** [6h 7d Td Ah] [5s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
CheckMyRiver: shows [Ad Kd] (a pair of Aces)
jordian: shows [3d 4h] (WTF HE HIT HIS GUTSHOT?!?!)
jordian collected $279.10 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $279.60 | Rake $0.50
Board [6h 7d Td Ah 8s]
Seat 1: jordian (button) (small blind) showed [3d 4h] and won ($279.10) with the ass end of a straight
Seat 2: CheckMyRiver (big blind) showed [Ad Kd] and threw his computer
fyp
05-20-2008 , 12:01 PM
Was down 3 BI and tilting so I moved up and won it all back and then some...so so pro. I saw Eric Bana do it on tv like 15 times while getting on drew barrymore.
05-20-2008 , 01:02 PM
I made a hero call today ...

Full Tilt Poker Game #6493403925: Table Fight (heads up) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:58:50 ET - 2008/05/20
Seat 1: tonni7 ($62.50)
Seat 2: TheSalche ($62.70)
tonni7 posts the small blind of $0.25
TheSalche posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to TheSalche [Kh As]
tonni7 raises to $2
TheSalche raises to $7.50
tonni7 calls $5.50
*** FLOP *** [2d Qs Qd]
TheSalche bets $11
tonni7 has 15 seconds left to act
tonni7 raises to $55, and is all in
TheSalche calls $44
tonni7 shows [Ks Jh]
TheSalche shows [Kh As]
*** TURN *** [2d Qs Qd] [5s]
*** RIVER *** [2d Qs Qd 5s] [Td]
tonni7 shows a pair of Queens
TheSalche shows a pair of Queens
TheSalche wins the pot ($124.50) with a pair of Queens
tonni7 is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $125 | Rake $0.50
Board: [2d Qs Qd 5s Td]
Seat 1: tonni7 (small blind) showed [Ks Jh] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 2: TheSalche (big blind) showed [Kh As] and won ($124.50) with a pair of Queens
05-20-2008 , 01:32 PM
First hand of the match 2/4 NL, unknown villain:

Hero is BB w/ QQ

Villain raises to 12, Hero raises to 44, Villain shoves all-in for 400, Hero calls. Super standard, amirite?
05-20-2008 , 01:36 PM
yeah so so standard. he has AK disproportionately imo, but you are ahead of his range whatever.
05-20-2008 , 01:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Merlinius
First hand of the match 2/4 NL, unknown villain:

Hero is BB w/ QQ

Villain raises to 12, Hero raises to 44, Villain shoves all-in for 400, Hero calls. Super standard, amirite?
Definitely standard, i'd call and be VERY happy abt it..
05-20-2008 , 01:42 PM
tom, ur bbv4l thread is amusing.
05-20-2008 , 01:44 PM
haha thanks jeffrey, was a pretty amusing night
05-20-2008 , 01:47 PM
ok i have a question that i am ashamed to ask.......

when you guys talk about guys having stats of 53/28 or whatever, what does that mean? i think it's some kind of numbers representing raising frequency or some kind of indicator of aggression?
05-20-2008 , 01:51 PM
VPIP/PFR

voluntarily putting money into the pot, and preflop raising percentage.

He raises the top 28% of hands in ur example.. on poker stove this is :

55+,A2s+,K5s+,Q7s+,J8s+,T8s+,98s,A7o+,K9o+,Q9o+,J9 o+
05-20-2008 , 01:51 PM
the first number is vpip (volutarily put money in pot), the second is raise.

so 50/50 means they only raise or fold

100/0 means they call everything and never raise.

Last edited by tmcdmck; 05-20-2008 at 01:51 PM. Reason: yeah what he said :P
05-20-2008 , 02:22 PM
why do people limp so much in hu sngs? in cash, most people raise. but in sngs, including most winning players at 115s and lower, they limp. why is that?
05-20-2008 , 02:28 PM
Smaller effective stacks.

I'm guessing you're talking about in the later stages, like 30bb and less b/c I don't get tons of limping from winning players in 110-220s early on.

Some of the nittier winners always limp their button, but I'll let them lose value 75bb deep with KK.
05-20-2008 , 02:37 PM
i played 12000 hands of 6 max on saturday. My wife was out of town and i was alone.

i really need to find another hobby.

i made 10K.

I've recovered 18K of a 24K downswing.

I am happy imo.
05-20-2008 , 02:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChicagoRy
Smaller effective stacks.

I'm guessing you're talking about in the later stages, like 30bb and less b/c I don't get tons of limping from winning players in 110-220s early on.

Some of the nittier winners always limp their button, but I'll let them lose value 75bb deep with KK.
Did I read this right? Are there winning players in the 220s playing a 100/0 game from the button when deepstacked? I dont play sngs at all but that must be highly exploitable.
05-20-2008 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TNixon
MASTERLJ!

I just have one thing to say to you.

your pathetic
lol. Did you like the vid? =P
05-20-2008 , 02:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scv
Did I read this right? Are there winning players in the 220s playing a 100/0 game from the button when deepstacked? I dont play sngs at all but that must be highly exploitable.
Not necessarily 100/0.

More like limp 60%, raise 5-15% random (usually not the top 5% either) fold rest or something along those lines.


RJRJ is one such player I recall off hand, though he is very very good IIRC. He limps most of his buttons and plays really well postflop.

I was talking more about the barely winning players though, the guys that beat the 22-55s for a solid clip with this style and are like 2% winners in the 110s or 220s. They are basically nits that lose a lot of value at showdown.
05-20-2008 , 03:12 PM
thanks chicagory. i guess i shouldn't say "most winning players." but a decent number of them do. smaller stack size makes sense. they limp a lot at the first level too, sometimes getting wild and crazy by minraising. i suppose perhaps one other reason they limp is because a lot of their opponents simply let them.
05-20-2008 , 03:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scv
Did I read this right? Are there winning players in the 220s playing a 100/0 game from the button when deepstacked? I dont play sngs at all but that must be highly exploitable.
sharkscope ovalis on pacific, he plays something like 97/2, yet does awesome.

hes certainly super exploitable though, i sit with him whenever i can (my results vs him would be more impressive if i didnt lose like 4 games to him when i was a tilting nub with no skillz :P). i think his win style is "make other dude tilt with my nittiness so hard that he actually pays me off when i raise, not because they think it is a good play, but because they just want to finish the god damn game cos its so slow". or at least, that is the only way he seems to beat me.

      
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