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05-18-2008 , 09:42 PM
an ode to Jacks by mendacity.


This hand occured prior to my ode to Jacks.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BB: $1,188.15
Hero (SB): $459

Pre-Flop: A A dealt to Hero (SB)
Hero raises to $8, BB calls $6

Flop: ($16) 2 J 6 (2 Players)
BB bets $16, Hero raises to $48, BB raises to $80, Hero calls $32

Turn: ($176) Q (2 Players)
BB bets $120, Hero calls $120

River: ($416) A (2 Players)
BB bets $272, Hero calls $251 and is All-In

Results: $918 Pot ($0.50 Rake)
BB showed 3 3 (a pair of Threes) and LOST (-$459 NET)
Hero showed A A (three of a kind, Aces) and WON $917.50 (+$458.50 NET)
A Jack is good but two jacks are better. When you're playing a jack of all trades you could have Ace Jack and still be good. Hooray for Jacks!!!

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

SB: $729.15
Hero (BB): $917.50

Pre-Flop: J J dealt to Hero (BB)
SB raises to $6, Hero raises to $24, SB raises to $72, Hero calls $48

Flop: ($144) 6 4 4 (2 Players)
Hero checks, SB bets $106, Hero calls $106

Turn: ($356) 5 (2 Players)
Hero checks, SB bets $268, Hero raises to $739.50 and is All-In, SB calls $283.15 and is All-In

River: ($1,458.30) 9 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $1,458.30 Pot ($0.50 Rake)
SB showed J K (a pair of Fours) and LOST (-$729.15 NET)
Hero showed J J (two pair, Jacks and Fours) and WON $1,457.80 (+$728.65 NET)
05-18-2008 , 09:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scansion
Hahaha I'm so glad this happened at 3/6. Probably the second time I've played 3/6 this year too.

UltimateBet $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
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BB: $233.50
Hero (BTN/SB): $600.00

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN/SB with T K
Hero raises to $18, BB calls $12

Flop: ($36.00) 8 K K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $19.50, BB raises to $45, Hero raises to $73.50, BB raises to $215.50 all in, Hero calls $142

Turn: ($467.00) 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($467.00) 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $467.00
BB shows 8h 6d (four eights)
Hero mucks Ts Kc
BB wins $466.50
(Rake: $0.50)
He also seemed to be very entertained by this.
05-18-2008 , 09:48 PM
oh jesus fluck this was the worst weekend of my poker life. i was on such a tear, and now it's gone gone gone. all my winnings plus, gone.

my bankroll is in tatters. i have to rebuild at small stakes.
05-18-2008 , 09:49 PM
reposting because it was at the bottom of the page

villain is a bit spewish...theoretically knows how to play but misapplies it (this is my read..at least)

Full Tilt Poker, $5 + $0.25 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 15/30 Blinds, 2 Players
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SB: 665
Hero (BB): 2,335

Pre-Flop: (45) K T dealt to Hero (BB)
SB calls 15, Hero checks

Flop: (60) K 5 Q (2 Players)
Hero checks, SB checks

Turn: (60) 3 (2 Players)
Hero bets 30, SB raises to 60, Hero raises to 180, SB calls 120

River: (420) Q (2 Players)
Hero checks, SB bets 455 and is All-In,

Who calls here? he insta shoved river.
05-18-2008 , 09:50 PM
The bottom of the page for one person is the middle for another, spammer.
05-18-2008 , 10:34 PM
Poker Stars $20+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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Hero (BTN/SB): t1500
BB: t1500

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN/SB with 9 8
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t40

Flop: (t120) Q 3 J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t120) T (2 players)
BB bets t80, Hero raises to t320, BB raises to t1440 all in, Hero calls t1120 all in

River: (t3000) 3 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: t3000
Hero shows 9c 8h (a straight, Eight to Queen)
BB shows 3c Qc (a full house, Threes full of Queens)
BB wins t3000


****ing awesome...
05-18-2008 , 10:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChicagoRy
The bottom of the page for one person is the middle for another, spammer.
what do u think about that hand though?
05-18-2008 , 10:48 PM
asg, it was a pretty good spot to bet the flop.

i fold the river, cant think of a hand that we beat.
05-18-2008 , 11:12 PM
I'd make it 45-50 turn, and when he minraises your reraise is a lot bigger.

As played, I think you should fold here.

Remember, don't restrict yourself to 3x raises just bc it's the "norm," this is a good spot to hit him with a bit of a bigger raise (and/or bet more on the turn in the first place). This guy is spewy so it's not like he folds Qx to a 3.5-4x raise on the turn.
05-18-2008 , 11:18 PM
I should quit playing on Sunday, lost around 20k in the last 4 Sundays combined, here is the recent lovely Sunday

05-19-2008 , 12:19 AM
i obviously played the hand terrible (even though i had a read), but still funny. fwiw, he snapcalled turn

Poker Stars $0.50/$1.00 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
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BTN/SB: $188.00
Hero (BB): $110.40

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with 7 9
BTN/SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $10, BTN/SB calls $7

Flop: ($20.00) 2 3 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $14, BTN/SB raises to $33, Hero calls $19

Turn: ($86.00) J (2 players)
Hero bets $67.40 all in, BTN/SB calls $67.40

River: ($220.80) 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $220.80
BTN/SB mucks 9d 6d
Hero shows 7d 9h (high card Jack)
Hero wins $220.30
(Rake: $0.50)
05-19-2008 , 12:33 AM
took 45th in the 2.5k ftops. i still really hate tournaments but the blue balls are great!
05-19-2008 , 01:12 AM
is fulltilt down or is it just me?
05-19-2008 , 02:29 AM
Because hitting his J would be too easy, right?

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
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Hero (BB): $62.40
BTN/SB: $35.25

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with T T
BTN/SB raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $5, BTN/SB raises to $35.25 all in, Hero calls $30.25

Flop: ($70.50) 8 A A (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($70.50) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($70.50) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $70.50
Hero shows Ts Td (two pair, Aces and Queens)
BTN/SB shows Js 4s (two pair, Aces and Queens - Jack kicker)
BTN/SB wins $70.00
(Rake: $0.50)
05-19-2008 , 03:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scansion
Move down to 50nl but don't set an amount of hands. Btw, am I the only one who gets excited when thinking about moving down limits to win some easy money? I'll go on a downer, think about it a ton, then come back excited that I'm going to grind at lower limits and make money where I know I'm crushing the competition.
I like this too, just drop til u feel your confidence is back.
05-19-2008 , 04:51 AM
Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
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BB: $61.15
Hero (BTN/SB): $48.80

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN/SB with A 8
Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $4.50, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($9.00) Q 6 8 (2 players)
BB bets $8, Hero calls $8

Turn: ($25.00) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $15.50, BB raises to $48.65 all in, Hero calls $20.80 all in

River: ($97.60) 4 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $97.60
BB shows 4c 4d (a full house, Fours full of Sixes)
Hero mucks As 8c
BB wins $97.10
(Rake: $0.50)



buhu
05-19-2008 , 06:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by STRAWBERRY
Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
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BB: $61.15
Hero (BTN/SB): $48.80

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN/SB with A 8
Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $4.50, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($9.00) Q 6 8 (2 players)
BB bets $8, Hero calls $8

Turn: ($25.00) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $15.50, BB raises to $48.65 all in, Hero calls $20.80 all in

River: ($97.60) 4 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $97.60
BB shows 4c 4d (a full house, Fours full of Sixes)
Hero mucks As 8c
BB wins $97.10
(Rake: $0.50)



buhu
dont like defending A8o to a 3 bet, unless its a small one
05-19-2008 , 06:48 AM
interested in any thoughts some of you guys have about approaching the deep HUNL tables. Plyed a long deep session vs a reg earlier and i just couldnt control myself from going batsheit crazy and basically turning it into a 100bb game
05-19-2008 , 07:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WOW UR BAD
dont like defending A8o to a 3 bet, unless its a small one
He was playing like a maniac. It was his 4th 3bet in about 20 hands, so considering the gameflow I felt this hand was probably ahead of his 3-bet range.
05-19-2008 , 12:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WOW UR BAD
interested in any thoughts some of you guys have about approaching the deep HUNL tables. Plyed a long deep session vs a reg earlier and i just couldnt control myself from going batsheit crazy and basically turning it into a 100bb game
I dont know what you mean by bat****....

but if you are playing say, 2/4 with $800 stacks...I don't think anything wrong with opening to say $20, or $16 if you want to make it play a little bit < 100bb...I think a lot of weaker opponents won't know how to adjust to that themselves too...but I think that's just a preference...of how you want stacks to play pre and post, and if you want to play 3bet pots with more or less bb in the middle and more or less post flop action...but with these size stax...calling a 3bet to 40 (12 to 40) or a 3bet to 64 (20 to 64) is going to make a difference in post flop play and I think it's up to you to figure out what is the best for the given opponent you're playing.
05-19-2008 , 12:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by STRAWBERRY
He was playing like a maniac. It was his 4th 3bet in about 20 hands, so considering the gameflow I felt this hand was probably ahead of his 3-bet range.
I'd 4bet him and expect him to fold a lot then. I'd 4bet a really wide range too, it's not cause we have Ax, I'd actually rather 4bet something like 98 or w/e if I'm gonna 4bet as a bluff...but yea, I'm not a fan of defending with A8o cause you're basically never flopping anything you like and you're going to have to make moves on pots without the lead.

And it's not that bad when you 4bet and get 5bet shoved on. It seems a lot of people hate this, but I like it when it happens cause you get a lot of information on the type of opponent you're playing.

I def. think 4betting first time > defending a hand like A8o.
05-19-2008 , 02:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by easycall
I def. think 4betting first time > defending a hand like A8o.
+1
05-19-2008 , 02:26 PM
i mean what's the point?

i get hit and run at least 90% of the time. at least. what's the ****ing point of playing this ****ing game?
05-19-2008 , 02:44 PM
oh the tilt. it's seeping through my veins. must . . . resist . . . smashing . . . computer . . . into . . . 4000 pieces
05-19-2008 , 02:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by derosnec
i mean what's the point?

i get hit and run at least 90% of the time. at least. what's the ****ing point of playing this ****ing game?
the concept of hit n run is a fiction.

      
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