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whats with the dick waving contests of who runs worse? cut the crap. everyone thinks they run worse than everyone else, but most dont understand that at some point they will run worse than they could ever imagine..if not, just wait.

take it easy

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01-14-2010 , 03:52 PM

#13003

LooseCaller

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this is a really good example of an argument where even if you win, you lose.

edit: ...more than you're supposed to, AMIRITE?

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01-14-2010 , 04:02 PM

#13004

thatpfunk

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HEADS UP FOR ALL THE GOLD is the best way to settle disputes. you guys can ev adjust or something too!

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01-14-2010 , 04:13 PM

#13005

ICMoney

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HM EV is a poor assessment of how you are running.

Does AA v AK show up?
How about when you three-barrel and he hits his crappy two pair on the river?
How about flush over flush?
He had the top pair instead of the fd this time.

gbucks > $sklanksy

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01-14-2010 , 04:18 PM

#13006

cftw

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Originally Posted by freemoney

i could post 100 of these/graphs you have posted but you are literally the last person to tell other people to grow some balls.

yes those were all within my first year-1.25 years of play. You can also find posts of me asking whether to raise or limp 44 preflop.

There's something called progress.

If after 5 years, you're still posting a graph of where you clearly aren't running bad and nearly half the people thought you were levelling by claiming you were run bad...well, then I don't know what to say to you.

There's a huge difference between a newbie to the game posting it, and a "verteran" like you posting it. Then again, you don't seem like a very bright bulb for posting it in the first place.

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01-14-2010 , 04:21 PM

#13007

cftw

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Originally Posted by higher_energy

it's not a dick waving contest. After my first year of play, I've kept all my run bad to myself and just post sarcastic comments from time to time. I was 90% sure freemoney was leveling with his beyond ridiculously idiotic post, but since he wasn't and assaulting other members for saying he was not even close to running bad and then telling me I run way better than him, I had to post a reply of some sort with evidence.

There are legit run-bad graphs, there are semi-legit ones, there are graphs where it isn't really run bad at all, and then there is freemoney's lol-graph where he runs like god and says he's at his "breaking point".

lolz.

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01-14-2010 , 04:21 PM

#13008

cftw

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Originally Posted by ICMoney

you'd think somebody with "OVER FIVE YEARS OF POKER EXPERIENCE OMG I'M BETTER THAN YOU" would figure this out.

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01-14-2010 , 04:24 PM

#13009

ICMoney

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What happened to the good old days of cftw's 2p2 gimmick accounts to scam a HU grudge match?

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01-14-2010 , 05:01 PM

#13010

freemoney

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Originally Posted by cftw

i posted one graph and didnt write a pseudo-suicide letter like you do. do you realize how little credibility you have? i dont constantly post about running bad, i installed pt3 and saw i was 70bis under ev in a 120k hand sample so i posted it because its frustrating. you then attack me that im gonna be giving out handjobs as a broke degen when ive made more than you, played more hands than you, and am smarter than you.

im done responding to this stuff and in general with posting on 2p2 pretty much it makes me a much worse person, gl.

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01-14-2010 , 05:30 PM

#13011

putdaWHUMPonum

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Originally Posted by freemoney

i posted one graph and didnt write a pseudo-suicide letter like you do. do you realize how little credibility you have? i dont constantly post about running bad, i installed pt3 and saw i was 70bis under ev in a 120k hand sample so i posted it because its frustrating. you then attack me that im gonna be giving out handjobs as a broke degen when ive made more than you, played more hands than you, and am smarter than you.

im done responding to this stuff and in general with posting on 2p2 pretty much it makes me a much worse person, gl.

lolz yeah right

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01-14-2010 , 05:44 PM

#13012

putdaWHUMPonum

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i dont really want to get into the how important all in EV is or isnt discussion. But I will say that In my experiences I dont think its possible to win at 8-10ptbb/100(or $1 a hand at midstakes) and "run bad" unless your kaintD or some other really good, ridiculously nitty game selecting guy and even then its prob still not possible.

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01-14-2010 , 05:58 PM

#13013

ArturiusX

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-30BI over 10k hands of HU. sigh. standard?

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01-14-2010 , 06:10 PM

#13014

ICMoney

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Originally Posted by ArturiusX

-30BI over 10k hands of HU. sigh. standard?

Must be running bad.

Everyone loves to talk about EV graphs around here so grace us with yours.

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01-14-2010 , 07:23 PM

#13015

StreamlineR

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hi guise, lets play a game, first who talks about EV after my post is a loser and owes 10k to one random poster of HUNL

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01-14-2010 , 07:42 PM

#13016

Barge Ass

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When you guys shake your e-peen we get earthquakes in Australia.

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01-14-2010 , 08:08 PM

#13017

enty

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rrobert333 (BB): $278.75
Hero (BTN/SB): $189.10

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN/SB with J

Hero raises to $2, rrobert333 raises to $7, Hero raises to $21, rrobert333 calls $14

Flop: ($42.00) 9

(2 players)
rrobert333 checks, Hero bets $25.50, rrobert333 raises to $64, Hero raises to $168.10 all in, rrobert333 calls $104.10

Turn: ($378.20) A

(2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($378.20) 5

(2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $378.20
rrobert333 shows Q

(a pair of Queens)
Hero shows J

(a pair of Jacks)
rrobert333 wins $377.70

FML
why dont i just quit the run hot fish when im only down $100 anymore instead of $400

i might need to stop playing this deep at 50nl..

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01-14-2010 , 08:21 PM

#13018

Barge Ass

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Don't 4 bet JJ that deep mostly.

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01-14-2010 , 08:22 PM

#13019

salsathekid

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I've been complaining about how bad I run all week like everyone else.

Here's a fun hand. I will shut up for a little while.

I actually like his river shove though if he gets there.

Full Tilt, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $173.60
BB: $141.90

Pre-Flop: A

dealt to Hero (BTN)
Hero raises to $3, BB raises to $7, Hero raises to $22.50, BB calls $16

Flop: ($46) A

(2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($46) 6

(2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $23, BB calls $23

River: ($92) 5

(2 Players)
BB bets $95.90 and is All-In, Hero calls $95.90

Results: $283.80 Pot ($0.50 Rake)
Hero showed A A and WON $283.30 (+$141.90 NET)
BB showed 7 8 and LOST (-$140.90 NET)

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01-14-2010 , 08:25 PM

#13020

ICMoney

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Originally Posted by salsathekid

dealt to Hero (BTN)
Hero raises to $3, BB raises to $7, Hero raises to $22.50, BB calls $16

Flop: ($46) A

(2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($46) 6

(2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $23, BB calls $23

River: ($92) 5

(2 Players)
BB bets $95.90 and is All-In, Hero calls $95.90

Results: $283.80 Pot ($0.50 Rake)
BB showed 7 8 and WON (-$140.90 NET)
Hero showed A A and LOST $283.30 (+$141.90 NET)

fyp tehe

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01-14-2010 , 08:28 PM

#13021

enty

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Originally Posted by Barge Ass

Don't 4 bet JJ that deep mostly.

can u explain why please ?
ur the 2nd one to say that.

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01-14-2010 , 08:46 PM

#13022

ICMoney

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I think the 4b with JJ is okay.

It's not like 100bb where you will just get folds. You might get 5b, but you will get lots of calls too.

You can cb or pot control if you want.

Obv flatting is okay pf.

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01-14-2010 , 08:50 PM

#13023

salsathekid

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ICM, what did you change? Am I blind?

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01-14-2010 , 08:57 PM

#13024

rbracco

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The 4bet with JJ is fine. Flatting is okay too.

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01-14-2010 , 09:00 PM

#13025

enty

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Originally Posted by rbracco

The 4bet with JJ is fine. Flatting is okay too.

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Originally Posted by Barge Ass

Don't 4 bet JJ that deep mostly.

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Originally Posted by ICMoney

I think the 4b with JJ is okay.

now im just confused
pros and cons ? what does our villain need to be.

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Originally Posted by salsathekid

ICM, what did you change? Am I blind?

flop 9d -> str8 flush > quads

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