just say you want the koth format, this thing about abolishing hu cash is totally ridiculous.
you just fogot about that thing called capitalism...

new competitors poker sites would immediately pop up to satisfy demand for hu cash, and would end up stealing tons of customers to the commies who abolished hu cash thinking they would make more money...

but i understand this is intentionally provocative

why not instead of rake charge a table fee per half hour that way people are going to want action as every time they sit there going to be charged a fixed rate this would make more action as there would be less hit and running and people would be far more likly to sit with you as you were the one to rent the table and the fish would think that there getting a good deal.

what does this have to do with morality

in the end the better players are going to get the money one way or another. Abolishing HU cash may slow the money flow but it's not going to stop it. Is there really a difference if the money in the online poker economy evaporates in 5 years instead of 3? The end result is the same.

Poker sites may have a motive, but for any player there is no reason to support getting rid of HU cash other than out of one's own selfish reasons.

people play HU cash because they LIKE playing HU cash. Poker sites offer HU cash to keep customer happy( and they still make enough cash I believe)
Guess what: A site with no players DOES NOT make profit.

This thread really tilt me
supporting the supression of HU Poker, an extremelly popular form of poker to serve your own selfish reasons is arogant and pretentious. Let people play what they want to play!
Abolish...ban...censorship FU let people leave moron!

This thread sucks. I got the "why the poker sites should support it" but I missed the "why you should support it part"

Nothing. Isn't that why he is disregarding morality?

So you want to completely get rid of heads up?
This would be absolutely awful. After switching to heads up, I don't think I could become as interested in any other form of poker again. It sparked a new "life" in my poker game, and it's helping me improve a ton.

I facepalmed so hard it left a permanent indent on mah face.

bumhunting for life yo

yawn really?? You recently bought into UB? Heard it was going cheap....

I wanna have heybude's abortion.

Just don't play HU anymore? Forget it exists? TBH i don't play Stud/Razz/Badugi/Mixed ,should i just make a thread for sites to take them out because they aren't as profitable as 6max NLH?

You basically want to remove HU because you are jealous of bumhunters and you would want them to stop making money so you would feel better? You don't seem like a very nice person by going to all this length with this thread,just so there is a slight chance some people will be hurt to some extent so you feel good.

I'm not a bumhunter just for the record,too lazy for it i guess,and playing fish for very long bores the hell out of me,but i don't mind them at all. It's just logical that in a game of money there will be people that only attack the weak to minimize their risk,taking out HU won't solve that.

i thought that poker sites mainly made money off of the interest of people's bankrolls (they invest your online poker bank account and keep the interest). not sure if this is true though. i thought rake was just gravy...

live

Raise the rake. None of the regs play each other anyway so what is the difference.

What??

koth makes sense initially but when you think about it it's not a good system either (better than the current one, yes, but what isn't)

i'm in favor of aboloshing HU entirely even though i love it and have been playing only HU for 1.5 years, it's better for the games, better for the poker economy so in the long term better for myself too

No, because the top 10% makes about the same amount of money as the 70-79%, because both only play the bottom 10%. The top because nobody else will play them, the 70-79% because they won't play anyone but the bottom 10%. I can understand why people don't have a problem with that, and hell I'm going to be bumhunting more in 2010 too because it's the rational thing to do, but it's terrible for the poker economy in the longterm.

Espescially because the 70-79% don't give any of that money back to the community like they would when they'd gameselect in 6max. There is a fundamental difference between gameselecting in 6max and gameselecting HU.

Well, im doubling the fish sometimes, and he hitnruns. This makes him leave the table, and we dont contribute any more rake. Should Hitnrun also be prohibited?

ofcourse not, that's not the same thing

when i say 'the poker economy' i don't mean the site's bottom line, i mean the bottom line of anyone who is interested in playing poker for a couple more years

there's a HUGE incentive, both in 6max and in HU, to bumhunt. players that love the game of poker and are competitive (and by this i mean the 2 good nl2k regs playing headsup to get a table going, or just to get some action) are getting screwed hard by the bumhunters in a lot of ways. it's only a matter of time before everybody realizes this and acts upon this by only bumhunting themselves (this has already happened sometimes at highstakes, where the entire table of 6max regulars sit out everytime the fish sits out). in the long run, this will be terrible for everybody. how is a fish going to sit in when no games are running?

I understand that no solution is perfect, but damn, everybody should at least realise what it is bumhunters are doing. It's natural that the very top syphon money out of the poker economy (not saying this out of self-interest, but I don't think this is or should be debatable), but if the 11-79% regulars syphon virtually the same amount of money out of the HU economy (which is increasingly the case HU and will be the case if nothing is done about the current climate) that's a huge problem for the poker economy.

What you're saying is that the games are fine when the top 50% are profiting from the bottom 50%, but when it gets so top heavy with the top 90% profiting from the bottom 10%, the games are in trouble?

Not disagreeing, just want to make sure I understand you.

yeah, and that it's not correct (although it's hard to really justify that, more of a feeling) that the 40-50% makes the same amount as the 1-10%

Im bumhunting and I clearly agree with all that OP said, bumhunting **** every other player really hard, but still, removing HU tables would just be dumb. The site is not suposed to decide what we are being able to play or not, to some extent, and if for example PS removes HU, they will lose alot of HU regs, and so on.

OP ur right, but u wont get any thing done by this, other than mb me feeling ashamed for my 10+ ptbb...

49 posts and not a single HU4ROLLZ? Standards are slipping. Or improving, depending on your point of view.