if villain really hasnt shown a tendency to 3bet barrel barrel OOP then i dont think you have much FE

and idk that 3-1 on BDclubs and BDbroadway looks preeeeeeeeety good for calling and folding river UI

Yeah, this is actually a bad thing IF* we are almost always folding to a river bet UI. Let's cut our outs by at least 2 and get bluffed on the river when we don't get there.

id definitely call to hit my royal on the river and get paid a 5k bonus~

This makes absolutely no sense. You're saying "if he's bluffing, let's make him fold."



Shoving is sooo bad imo. He only calls with a better hand. There is no draw that we are ahead of that he can call a shove with e.g. he's never b/c a shove with 98. But he's rarely folding AJ+.

I think a lot of people want to shove the turn because they are unwilling to call a 3rd barrel with AK UI, which we should obviously consider doing if we flat the turn.

A better idea. If we raise the turn, make it like $230. It gives him plenty of room to shove over and it shouldn't change our F/E vs. KK or whatever IMO. In fact, I actually think it looks a lot scarier than a shove particularly after we flatted THIS flop, but whatever, it doesn't really matter as far as FE vs. made hands go. The important thing is, we can continue with worse draws which is what we really, really want.