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11-18-2015 , 10:15 PM

Loltsuka

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Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 11

Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2819838
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UTG: $6.43
MP: $5.00
CO: $4.92
BTN: $5.00
Hero (SB): $14.08
BB: $4.11

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with K

2 folds, CO raises to $0.14, BTN calls $0.14, Hero raises to $0.55, 1 fold, CO calls $0.41, BTN calls $0.41

Flop: ($1.70) 6

(3 players)
Hero bets $1.30, CO folds, BTN calls $1.30

Turn: ($4.30) J

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.40, BTN calls $1.40

River: ($7.10) 6

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.75 all in, Hero ???

Button is a 23/17 player over 20 hands at that point.

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11-18-2015 , 10:28 PM

GloryRising

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 503

Well played.
Now snap call.

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11-18-2015 , 10:31 PM

Loltsuka

stranger

Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 11

well that helps. Too bad he showed jacks full.

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11-18-2015 , 10:41 PM

GloryRising

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 503

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Originally Posted by Loltsuka

well that helps. Too bad he showed jacks full.

Yes, I hope it does help. He spiked his lucky J on the turn. Every time he doesn't (which is 80% of the time preflop and 90% of the time after the flop) you will win the pot.

Don't be results orientated. You made the right play and got unlucky. That's poker.

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11-18-2015 , 10:58 PM

Zarkin_Frood

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Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 24

Weird betsizings though. Quite big on the flop, very small on the turn. And why not fire the last 1.75 on the river? If he has a better hand he will bet it anyway, but when he checks behind with say, pocket 8's, you lose that value.

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11-18-2015 , 10:59 PM

Brokenstars

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Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 16,410

You need to 3b larger preflop, 65c is better.

Flop bet/sizing is ok

Turn sizing is awful, just ship it. You bet 1.40 in to a 4.30 pot when there was 3.15 left, and then you checked river!!!! *facepalm*

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11-18-2015 , 11:10 PM

Loltsuka

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Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 11

getting mixed signals. One says well played, other says I should ship it on the turn?

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11-18-2015 , 11:14 PM

Brokenstars

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Originally Posted by Loltsuka

getting mixed signals. One says well played, other says I should ship it on the turn?

I think we need to work on your ability to get reads based on other stuff too.

One has 6k posts, one doesn't.

One post has reasoning, the other doesn't.

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11-18-2015 , 11:18 PM

Loltsuka

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Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 11

you didn't give any reasoning for why I should 3b larger. And activity =/= skill. Daniel Negreanu opens an account here and has 3 posts so his advice is irrelevant?

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11-18-2015 , 11:18 PM

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GloryRising

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Originally Posted by Loltsuka

getting mixed signals. One says well played, other says I should ship it on the turn?

Hahaha, there's more than one way to play a hand. Getting it in on the turn is the plan, but your way of playing it is fine also. Some get picky about little things, and yes, it is standard to make the squeeze larger but again your sizing isn't terrible.

(Also, 6000 posts doesn't mean 6000 good posts).

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11-18-2015 , 11:20 PM

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Brokenstars

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Originally Posted by Loltsuka

you didn't give any reasoning for why I should 3b larger. And activity =/= skill

You should 3b larger for two reasons

1. You are oop
2. There is a caller

As for the last piece, you are very correct. However, one could say the same thing in regards to short stacks. Just because someone is not at =>100bb does not make him a worse player, that being said however, it does in fact increase the probability of that being the case by a substantial margin.

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11-18-2015 , 11:21 PM

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dloneunit

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Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 701

Yeah isnt it better to bet a sizing flop where its easy to gii turn? nice and easy.

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11-18-2015 , 11:22 PM

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GloryRising

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Originally Posted by dloneunit

Yeah isnt it better to bet a sizing flop where its easy to gii turn? nice and easy.

He did.

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11-18-2015 , 11:23 PM

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Nirwanda

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Yeah, decide if you want to play a 2 or a 3street game (both have merit) and size your bets accordingly.

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11-18-2015 , 11:25 PM

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Loltsuka

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Originally Posted by Brokenstars

My normal 3bet sizing is 3x the initial raise, wich would have been 0,45$, so I bet 0,55$ instead because I'm OOP, I allready took that into account. I did not, however, take into account the caller. Will bet even larger next time, thanks.

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11-18-2015 , 11:27 PM

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Brokenstars

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Originally Posted by Nirwanda

Yeah, decide if you want to play a 2 or a 3street game (both have merit) and size your bets accordingly.

This is also true, going 1/3 1/3 ship is ok. Personally believe just 55-66% otf and ship turn is higher EV for your range though.

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11-18-2015 , 11:28 PM

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Loltsuka

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Originally Posted by Nirwanda

Yeah, decide if you want to play a 2 or a 3street game (both have merit) and size your bets accordingly.

I was sizing my bets to push out the other guy on the flop and stack off the 2nd guy by the river. Was that ******ed y/n?

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11-18-2015 , 11:28 PM

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GloryRising

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Originally Posted by Loltsuka

You have to add the caller to that total. 3x = 45c. 45c+15c=60c. 60c+5c=65c because OOP. Which is what he said to make it. Not a big deal though. Depends how confident you are in your post flop game.

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11-18-2015 , 11:28 PM

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Brokenstars

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Originally Posted by Loltsuka

Stack depth is another important factoring when determining 3b/4b sizings. (not applicable here) just something to keep in mind.

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11-19-2015 , 01:58 AM

#20

reschu

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Hand is fine.

Only small problem is sizing. Preflop could be a little bit bigger.

Postflop you have to decide if you play a 2 or 3 street game. I personally go for the 2 streets all-in. So I can get max value from draws.

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