Lets say you have 22 and your raise utg to 2$ and get called by mp1 (15/12/3 5% 3bet) who you consider to be a solid reg. Making the pot $4.75. effective stacks are 50$

Flop comes out K36 and you elect to cbet for 3$because the board is so dry. MP1 calls making the pot 10.75.

The turn is the 2 Giving you bottom set. Whats our line here? Bet/fold, bet/call or bet/3bet? and what kind of range could villain have if he raises here?

Umm, check/raise.

If we do bet and he raises I expect him to show up with a set 99% of the time.

HE'S TRYING TO TRICK YOU INTO ADVOCATING FOLDING A SET! DON'T FALL FOR IT!!!!!!

all i can think of right now is c/r is the horriblest thing you can do. (sorry sweden it completely polarizes villians continuation range)

will post a more detailed answer later. I am thinking about it, it seems complicated. good question

If he's capable of floating (I hate just refering to someone as "solid") then c/r

Once again, it depends on your image and how he's playing...

c/c turn b/f river gets the most value from worse hands.

it also lets us get value from floats, and doesn't get us stacked when he has a higher set.

b/b/s vs ak/aq ******

dont listen to notilt he looks ***** live

I doubt AQ calls 3 streets though

and what are we doing when he raises turn?

remember, our opponent on the internet won't instantly stop talking and go into a shell when he's holding the nuts (like a certain live player i know)

This is actually really good, might beat c/r

this I like.
you should also know that villian is not out levelling us. But thats a different rock paper scissors game.

vs an complete unknown good player this is a really good line to max value from his floating range. Also instead of b/f river i like c/c river too because when we bet the river he is not calling his one pair overpair hands UI if he has any iota of nonsense in his head.
But when checked to he is checking back all of them anyway and might stab with his floating range again. Also we get to showdown our set instead of folding


Btw greg no competent villian should call your second bet with AK (unless he thinks you are double bareeling etc. ) and certainly not call your shove with anythign worse on a dry board where we assume he is showing up with TPTK or weirdly played overpair at worse.

problem with c/r is he fold's AK if he's solid.

c/c lead >>> c/r = b/b/s

but we probably should b/f turn if we are going to bet

the reason c/c sucks so much dick is because the frequency with which a good reg is floating ur utg on that dry board is very low so when he calls he has Kx so AK or KQ. Also he may have JJ TT QQ ect... but he isnt betting turn with it. So to maximize ur value vs Kx you need to bet turn. Cause usually he isnt betting K on turn unless AK.so alot of the time turn will go check check and then u v bet river instead of b/b/s and stack a bitch


obv b/f turn


if this was like high jack vs btn i like c/c better for all the reasons why notilt likes it

AK is only K in his range

what are these other Kx's u speak of

u bet turn, u fold out 77-QQ... u take bet/check/bet line you possibly get called on river.

b/b/s stacks only AA/AK, and doesn't even stack them unless you have joey image

KQs?

However, why wouldn't he float us on a K high board, but on a jack high board? Makes no sense.

AK or KQ.

because its utg vs mp

yea i c/c turn because this board is the perfect board to float and i would expect most of his range on the turn. And i would probably c/r river AI. If he has a set w/e.

To those suggesting a c/r anywhere allong the line. Do you really think he calls with AK if you c/r anywhere? Remember villain is compentent and knows about handreading.

Yes! At least at 50NL.

Was going to say c/r but yeah, c/c b/f is wayyyyyyyy better. nh NoT.

c/c b/f >>>>>>>>>>>> c/r >>> b/s

i think this board is too dry for a c/r ,by far.

not sure if i would b b b or take the c/c line on turn-



meh,what notontilt suggested seems to be best.

Checking turn is great for metagame against a solid reg who we will likely see again. It will protect our turn checks in the future, and we expect to be playing against him many more times. He'll probably take a note and think twice about floating next time. Obviously this is great if we can start taking pots down on the flop with cbets against him.

As others have said, I think c/c turn is best, and then probably lead river for 1/2-2/3 pot. If he checks back, it's really not that much of a tragedy since he wouldn't have stacked off to a b/b/s line with a hand that checks back turn anyway.

how much money do we have behind when we bet/fold the river? it better be a decent amount, I'm very rarely folding a set at the river getting 4/1

especially true if the river may have improved the villains hand to a good but second best hand