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2nl zoom KJs from BB vs UTG opener, x/r gutshot otf, hit flush otr, paired board, decision otr 2nl zoom KJs from BB vs UTG opener, x/r gutshot otf, hit flush otr, paired board, decision otr
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05-29-2015 , 06:51 AM
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Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 220 BB (VPIP: 22.33, PFR: 18.14, 3Bet Preflop: 10.96, Hands: 224)
SB: 89 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
Hero (BB): 153.5 BB
UTG: 106.5 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 10.61, 3Bet Preflop: 1.35, Hands: 204)
MP: 112 BB (VPIP: 15.94, PFR: 14.49, 3Bet Preflop: 3.77, Hands: 143)
CO: 65 BB (VPIP: 22.06, PFR: 2.94, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 70)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K J

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) A 4 T
Hero checks, UTG bets 3 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, UTG calls 7 BB

Turn: (26.5 BB, 2 players) T
Hero bets 19 BB, UTG calls 19 BB

River: (64.5 BB, 2 players) 8

Villain is 27\11 opens 9% from UTG.

What do we do?
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05-29-2015 , 07:05 AM
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Not a fan of bluff raising this flop OOP....

What are you really debating here on the river? It's a must bet IMO, V will check behind a huge chunk of his range.... Basically all hands we are beating will check behind

I prefer making a value bet on this river, 1/2~2/3 pot....
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05-29-2015 , 07:16 AM
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Wouldn't really have a raising range vs a reg on this board.

Think you should just flat vs that sizing (and in general).

As played ship river.
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05-29-2015 , 07:16 AM
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Not a fan of bluff raising this flop OOP....

What are you really debating here on the river? It's a must bet IMO, V will check behind a huge chunk of his range.... Basically all hands we are beating will check behind

I prefer making a value bet on this river, 1/2~2/3 pot....
b/f or b/c?

I mean if he was likely to call turn with Ax hands then it's an easy b/c, but if not then it's b/f. on which camp are you?
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05-29-2015 , 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by neok
Wouldn't really have a raising range vs a reg on this board.

Think you should just flat vs that sizing (and in general).

As played ship river.
What's the plan if we flat this flop?
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05-29-2015 , 08:04 AM
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b/f or b/c?

I mean if he was likely to call turn with Ax hands then it's an easy b/c, but if not then it's b/f. on which camp are you?
I guess it is b/f unless we have some read on V....

Chances of a flush over flush situation are minor and I just don't see this river ever being used as a bluff here....
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05-29-2015 , 08:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by neok
Wouldn't really have a raising range vs a reg on this board.

Think you should just flat vs that sizing (and in general).

As played ship river.
+1

imo it's especially bad to x/r vs someone who only has 9% rfi UTG
also yes we picked up equity ott but it's also a card that reduces our value combos by a lot, so I don't expect to have much fold equity there at all because we just rep close to nothing

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What's the plan if we flat this flop?
donk turn
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05-29-2015 , 11:45 AM
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I'd flat otf to keep the pot small oop v reg.

As played, def v-bet river, don't just put him on 88 & AA and lose value by checking imho.
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05-29-2015 , 11:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by neok
Wouldn't really have a raising range vs a reg on this board.

Think you should just flat vs that sizing (and in general).

As played ship river.
wp

bit more ott
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