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[2NL] QQ broke? [2NL] QQ broke?

03-08-2020 , 04:59 PM
Hello

$0.01/$0.02 No Limit Holdem
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6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by WeakTight Poker Hand History Converter

Stacks:
UTG ($84BB) 84bb
UTG+1 ($177.5BB) 178bb
CO ($42.5BB) 43bb
BTN Hero ($160BB) 160bb
SB ($100BB) 100bb
BB ($158.5BB) 159bb

Pre-Flop: (1.5BB, 6 players) Hero is BTN Q Q
UTG calls 1BB, UTG+1 raises to 3BB, 1 fold, Hero raises to 13BB, 1 fold, BB calls 12BB, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls 10BB

Flop: 6 4 9 ($40.5BB, 3 players)
BB bets 1BB, UTG+1 calls 1BB, Hero raises to 31BB, BB calls 30BB, UTG+1 folds

Turn: 9 ($103.5BB, 2)
BB bets 1BB, Hero calls 1BB

River: K ($105.5BB, 2)
BB bets 1BB, Hero raises to 18BB, BB calls 17BB

Villain is 100/38 VPIP/PFR but he is using the double donkbet gto strategy (db call + lead turn)
What do you think about the hand ?

Last edited by Ilimp; 03-08-2020 at 05:15 PM.
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03-08-2020 , 06:32 PM
Raise the turn as well , you'll know if villain has a 9 because they shove all the time.
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03-08-2020 , 06:53 PM
Thanks
What is your turn raise sizing?
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03-08-2020 , 07:30 PM
35-45BB ain't folding the 4Xs, 6Xs, straight draw and pocket pair combos. It's not that hard to fold if he shoves it back, even with the odds.

Shoving might get you a call by a few 6X combos and PPs.

I prefer the raise, because if a card I don't like comes on the river all I have to do is call 1BB.
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03-08-2020 , 07:33 PM
Ok thx
The guy finally showed K4o
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03-08-2020 , 08:55 PM
I wouldn't raise river ap
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03-08-2020 , 09:50 PM
Why not to raise river?
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03-08-2020 , 10:13 PM
is this regular table or zoom?

regular table:
  • the very first time u encounter this - keep calling this guy's 1bb to the river and see what he shows
  • you need to figure out whether the beggar bet is a check/cheap draw/or suck for a reraise
  • have donk|donk-fold to raise stats in your hud - see whether he donks and folds to a raise

With QQ here,
  • Imagine that 1bb is a check - would you bet MW on that board - if yes how much? - then bet that amount
  • with these sticky fishes, avoid going broke with overpairs esp deep stacked - they will call with crap and hit weird ass hands that beat you left and right
  • dont raise river here - take it to showdown - what calls your raise would beat you esp on paired boards
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03-08-2020 , 10:33 PM
Hey, thanks for your tips

This is on regular tables

- sure I have db stats on my hud, he has 100% donkbet and 0% fold to raise after donkbet
- what is MW?
- Turn : I wouldnt bet on that board because villain often calls flop with a 9 and I dont see much hands calling on paired board if we bet
- because he only bet 1bb on the river, I thought he can"t have a 9 and I wanted to get paid by any pair
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03-08-2020 , 10:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ilimp
Hey, thanks for your tips

This is on regular tables

- sure I have db stats on my hud, he has 100% donkbet and 0% fold to raise after donkbet
- what is MW?
- Turn : I wouldnt bet on that board because villain often calls flop with a 9 and I dont see much hands calling on paired board if we bet
- because he only bet 1bb on the river, I thought he can"t have a 9 and I wanted to get paid by any pair
that db stats - over how many hands? so you exploit this guy by raising big on good hands HU OTF with good equity when called

MW- multiway, HU-heads up, OTF-on the flop

river -
dont assume in vacuum vs these guys. thats why i said u need to see their cards in showdown and note - trust me -- pay 5-10bb and see their cards 2-3 times you can abuse these guys

his range is very wide and you dont know whether is beggar betting for cheap showdown with crap or wants you to raise his bet with 9x, Kx or monsters.
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03-08-2020 , 10:43 PM
always remember - what goes on in that moron's head when they donk 1bb any street is sthg like this:

Quote:
The sizing on the turn is deliberate, sized as such to get some low percentage draws out and allow me to have an option to call if check-raised. Also, the sizing was chosen to make it look like I was trying to induce a check-raise, therefore folding out some better hands
check this thread

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/6...-play-1760328/
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03-08-2020 , 11:02 PM
Ok thanks
I had a small sample of hands (less than 100)
I got the same problem on this hand https://www.weaktight.com/r/5e605ba5d3904368418b47a8

Im going to read the thread you sent me


Edit:

Quote:
The sizing on the turn is deliberate, sized as such to get some low percentage draws out and allow me to have an option to call if check-raised. Also, the sizing was chosen to make it look like I was trying to induce a check-raise, therefore folding out some better hands
Oh this is the thinking process of "the fish", good to know
Thanks I understand now
Spoiler:

Last edited by Ilimp; 03-08-2020 at 11:16 PM.
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