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12-03-2022 , 01:48 PM

0NoobiePoker0

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BB is 20/16/11 in 6K hands, 3 bets 10% out of the BB. Do you like calling here with the spade on the flop, and as played, are you stabbing at this turn? Thoughts are appreciated, thanks.

SB: 39.71 BB
BB: 112.19 BB
CO: 94.67 BB
Hero (BTN): 155.06 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K

fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, BB raises to 10 BB, Hero calls 7.5 BB

Flop: (20.5 BB, 2 players) 3

BB bets 12.87 BB, Hero calls 12.87 BB

Turn: (46.24 BB, 2 players) J

BB checks, Hero?

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12-03-2022 , 03:55 PM

madchens123

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Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 489

Calling flop in position for sure.

I really like stabbing here for like 75% and shoving any spade, K, or Q river (if he checks).

Last edited by madchens123; 12-03-2022 at 04:01 PM.

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12-03-2022 , 04:54 PM

submersible

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i dont think u can call the flop and not stab the turn. kind of iffy vs BB thats under 3betting but im sure i am peeling both pre and otf in real time too esp vs 4x

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12-03-2022 , 05:04 PM

thr33bet

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Is 10% 3b from the BB under 3betting? We can stab small OTT, I'd guess most of our range wants a small sizing on this board. Maybe like 33-50%?

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12-03-2022 , 05:13 PM

jbcelo

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Join Date: Jul 2022 Posts: 100

Idk man, the Turn is pretty good for BB to continue barreling as a bluff so he will probably has a lot of air that give up for a triple barrel or he has a lot of SDV in his Check range so given this I think we can stab for a small size but I shouldnt bluff river except on spades one.

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12-04-2022 , 02:19 AM

Brokenstars

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Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 16,409

Stabbing turn small seems okay. You're only getting owned if he x/r very aggressively and most regs aren't doing that much (yet).

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12-04-2022 , 02:27 AM

Yogurt Daddy

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Join Date: Nov 2022 Posts: 1,022

I want to say stab.

But not sure about your pool, where I'm playing on 200blitz, guys are starting to get pretty aggressive with c/r. Lots of b/c/b lines and b/c/r lines. Or c/r flops in 3bet pots.

And they are very value heavy in these spots.

If your pool isn't doing that currently, I'd definitely stab and jam on K, Q, or spade river.

And folding to a c/r.

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12-04-2022 , 11:44 AM

Claret~N~Blue

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I bet turn.. I used to go 50-75% but find that sizing down often accomplishes the same especially vs the fit or fold run of the mill ABC type villains so go like 1/3

nh

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12-04-2022 , 02:03 PM

DooDooPoker

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4bet pf will be better than calling I think, especially from a BB 3bet. Population over folds to 4bets and doesn't 5bet nearly enough.

As far as postflop, it's unlikely he folds OTT here given preflop ranges + board texture. Also the fact that he used big cbet sizing.

You should try nodelocking a 10% BB range with a range cbet for this sizing and see if the flop call is even winning. I'd say it isn't. Especially given population double barrels more than GTO.

Also even more so on this board texture.

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12-05-2022 , 04:41 AM

#10

Unguarded

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Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 5,738

I definitely want to bet the turn. I just don't expect these tighter players to fight back much, and his flop sizing makes me think he just wanted to take it down right there without having to worry about barreling. We're not really repping much, but I just feel like he is giving up a lot. 1/3 turn and shove river seems good. 1/2-2/3 turn and give up seems fine too.

And ya, 4bet bluffing pre is an option. Folding flop seems fine too.

The main thing I feel strongly about is betting something on the turn.

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12-05-2022 , 06:49 AM

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dude45

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IP get's to bet the turn with a lot of OP combos that contain a single spade. Its actually correct to bet more often with 1 spade than with 2 spades with a lot of combos.

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