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12-08-2014 , 02:09 PM

Qu1ck

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Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

SB: $11.93 (119.3 bb)
BB: $15.19 (151.9 bb)
UTG: $10.56 (105.6 bb)
Hero (MP): $20.23 (202.3 bb)
CO: $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $11.08 (110.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 9

UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.30, CO folds, BTN calls $0.30, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.75) A

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.64, BTN calls $0.64

Turn: ($2.03) J

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.45, BTN calls $1.45

River: ($4.93) K

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $3.70, Hero ?

18\6 over 17 hands

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12-08-2014 , 02:13 PM

Brokenstars

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I still go bigger ott.

Calling here as played, normally just betting again.

If you're checking back this river, are you ever going to have a better hand than this?

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12-08-2014 , 02:34 PM

Qu1ck

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Originally Posted by Brokenstars

If you're checking back this river, are you ever going to have a better hand than this?

How am i checking back this river?

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12-08-2014 , 02:42 PM

Brokenstars

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Originally Posted by Qu1ck

River: ($4.93) K

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $3.70, Hero ?

?? You checked here

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12-08-2014 , 02:45 PM

Qu1ck

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Yep, but i didn`t "check back" if you know the difference.

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12-08-2014 , 02:48 PM

Brokenstars

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Originally Posted by Qu1ck

Yep, but i didn`t "check back" if you know the difference.

Lol, okay, but I think you understood what I meant...

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12-08-2014 , 02:50 PM

Qu1ck

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Originally Posted by Brokenstars

Lol, okay, but I think you understood what I meant...

Now yes, i just thought you misread the hand

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12-08-2014 , 02:51 PM

Brokenstars

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I just mean if you have some checking range on this river it might be some like KdX combos and maybe some weak aces, but this is just like the nut top of your range when you check back here... so take that for what it's worth.

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12-08-2014 , 03:40 PM

OMGLUCKBOX

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Originally Posted by Brokenstars

butttttttttttttttttttttt he's not checking back.............................................. ......

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12-08-2014 , 04:38 PM

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Brokenstars

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Yah I said it again on purpose. Pretty lame that it got brought up again, though. I can easily argue that it can be interpreted as checking back to him, so it is his turn to act. But, this isn't English class.

Last edited by Brokenstars; 12-08-2014 at 04:44 PM.

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12-08-2014 , 04:59 PM

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Alci

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This will come off as weak but I don't think that this villain will be betting wide enough to make CC profitable. I would feel more confident B/F saying $2.90 than I do CC $3.70. To me it seems he's repping AJ. I'm expecting sets to raise turn and AK to 3B PF. Maybe since it's Zoom he has AQ, but it just seems like that hand would have too much equity to bluff with against his line.

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12-08-2014 , 05:10 PM

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Qu1ck

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Would you raise sets OTT yourself?

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12-08-2014 , 05:14 PM

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Brokenstars

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Originally Posted by Qu1ck

Would you raise sets OTT yourself?

Yeah... villain's value range on the river is basically AQ/AJ and some flush combos. But, I don't see why he can't bluff here especially if we're folding 100% of the time. If you don't think he ever bluffs here it's still going to be close imo.

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12-09-2014 , 03:37 AM

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jimmyjesus

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Originally Posted by Alci

This makes little sense to me. Which worse hands are going to call a river bet? If we bet the river, we never get bluff raised, but never get called by worse. So by betting we are only really playing against the part of his range that beats us. By check/calling, we are playing against a wider part of his range as he sometimes bets worse for value and sometimes bluffs.

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12-09-2014 , 06:53 AM

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Qu1ck

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Originally Posted by 40yards

bet on river…...

Nothing worse calls 3barrel here.

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12-09-2014 , 10:09 AM

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Brokenstars

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Originally Posted by Qu1ck

Nothing worse calls 3barrel here.

You should be triple barrel bluffing more run outs then.....

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12-09-2014 , 11:02 AM

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Qu1ck

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Originally Posted by Brokenstars

You should be triple barrel bluffing more run outs then.....

I think thats a bad advice at 10 nl.

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12-09-2014 , 12:35 PM

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cumonmytits

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Originally Posted by Qu1ck

Nothing worse calls 3barrel here.

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Originally Posted by Brokenstars

You should be triple barrel bluffing more run outs then.....

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Originally Posted by Qu1ck

I think thats a bad advice at 10 nl.

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12-09-2014 , 01:50 PM

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lvr

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c/f ap

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12-09-2014 , 04:13 PM

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Alci

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Originally Posted by Qu1ck

Would you raise sets OTT yourself?

Generally no. I immediately raise flop, but a lot of generic players will float and raise turn with sets.

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12-09-2014 , 04:22 PM

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Qu1ck

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^ Are you really happy to GII on 3x flush flop w 22\99 here?

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12-09-2014 , 04:23 PM

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Alci

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Originally Posted by jimmyjesus

I disagree. I think he almost never bets or shoves worse, but he certainly calls worse. I'm tempted to ask OP to post results so I can go "see", but results from one hand doesn't prove anything.

I don't believe this type of player has the ability bluff this after floating twice even though it's probably a +ev bluff. If this guy turns over < AK I will be shocked. Now I'm really curious. Post the results OP. I can handle the possibility of being wrong.

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