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01-29-2017 , 04:28 AM

cgeomath

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V is 24/20/2.1 over almost 2K hands. Please comment.

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (CO): $10.50 (105 bb)
BTN: $11.81 (118.1 bb)
SB: $8.38 (83.8 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)
UTG: $10 (100 bb)
MP: $10.26 (102.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.25, 2 folds, BB calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.55) A

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.27, BB calls $0.27

Turn: ($1.09) 2

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.52, BB calls $0.52

River: ($2.13) T

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.02, BB raises to $3.06, Hero calls $2.04

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01-29-2017 , 04:53 AM

whitemares

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<1/2pot otf and ott is too small imo. Villain's calling range is going to be heavily weighted towards draws, and you're giving pretty much all of them a good price.

I'm folding river. I don't expect villain to ever have a worse hand unless you've really been getting out of line.

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01-29-2017 , 05:08 AM

Brokenstars

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more ott
hard for him to have natural bluffs otr.

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01-29-2017 , 05:25 AM

cgeomath

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I think that he has some bluffs on otr. Missed flush draws 9Ts. I can't find many value hands in this range. Probably KQs TT 9Qs (3 combos) and AT(4combos) that we are chopping.

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01-29-2017 , 06:20 AM

whitemares

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Originally Posted by cgeomath

I can't find many value hands in this range. Probably KQs TT 9Qs (3 combos) and AT(4combos) that we are chopping.

You're forgetting 88, AJ, and KQo.

edit: and ~2% 3bet might not even 3bet JJ pre.

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01-29-2017 , 06:33 AM

cgeomath

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Originally Posted by whitemares

You're forgetting 88, AJ, and KQo.

edit: and ~2% 3bet might not even 3bet JJ pre.

2% is his ag.factor (when we say a player plays 24/20/2.1 we mean VPIP/PFR/Ag.f, No?)

88, AJ would raise otf or ott, most of the time. KQo very hard to call 2 barrels with just a gutshot.

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01-29-2017 , 07:22 AM

whitemares

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Originally Posted by cgeomath

2% is his ag.factor (when we say a player plays 24/20/2.1 we mean VPIP/PFR/Ag.f, No?)

88, AJ would raise otf or ott, most of the time. KQo very hard to call 2 barrels with just a gutshot.

HUD stats in HHs are VPIP/PFR/3bet, usually AF is specified otherwise.

You can discount them from villain's range, but I wouldn't considering it's more than possible for those hands to take such a line (especially if you're perceived to be aggro). Villain should have some KQo combos with a spade, but yeah you're right, more likely that villain wouldn't continue past the turn with those if they're not a drooler.

Still, I wouldn't call here without solid information about villain's bluffing frequencies.

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01-29-2017 , 07:36 AM

Fishtankz

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This is really strange line indeed. Small river raise looks like thin valueish.
2p is guaranteed to raise the turn.
Think its either the random kq, which should fold the turn wo FD. KQ w FD could raise the turn as well. This is really strange so i'd end up calling here as well and feeling good about it

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01-29-2017 , 09:03 AM

Mike MacIntosh

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Bet larger for value on every street.

Easy bet/fold on the river. River check-raises, are nut hands the overwhelming majority of the time (K

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01-29-2017 , 10:29 AM

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Haizemberg93

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Imo should bet bigger otf ott and esp otr.Otr V have some missed flush draws that he is going to fold to any size the rest of his range is bluff catchers with maybe 4 strong combos.
AP-I think its a call.You just getting too good of price and V have very few value hands and def can have some bluffs K9s or KTs for example

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01-29-2017 , 03:49 PM

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DomnulPescar

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fold

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