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06-20-2014 , 04:00 PM
Folds to CO
CO raises .35
BTN folds
SB folds
BB (hero) calls .35 /w 5c 5s

flop: Qc 2h 3c (.75)

BB checks
CO bets .60
BB calls .60

Turn: 6h (1.95)

BB checks
CO bets 1.10
BB calls 1.10

River: 5c (4.15)

BB???

Villain had a tendency to over value low pairs, had not been known to double barrel draws.

Effective stack is 13.40
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06-20-2014 , 04:12 PM
I think I would check/fold to the turn barrel. Almost all flush draws (if he bets them) have 9+6=15 outs, so they are 30%, he likely doesn't barrel air, and his made hands have you crushed. Cutoff he's raising somewhat wide preflop, this would effect how many flushdraws he's got on the turn. Maybe versus button I might check/call two.

River I think its a clear check/call. If hes any good with the obvious draw coming in he won't payoff with like AQ/KQ but he may bet these when checked to. Marginals (like tt/jj) won't put in another bet, and you can't really rep betting air either. He could also triple barrel/still be bluffing and you snap that off.
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06-20-2014 , 04:48 PM
check/fold flop. It's really bad to float OOP when we're drawing to 2 outs when we're behind.

As played I'd just shove the river, I think he'd check back a lot of his weaker Q's that he might call a ship with.
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06-20-2014 , 06:29 PM
x/f fold. also, doesn't make sense. it says you hold the 5c, and then a 5c comes on the river?
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06-24-2014 , 09:23 PM
I have a question myself. Since this is the only thread I've found regarding 6 max microstakes NLHE.

I'm not new to online poker, but I'am new to Bovada.

out of the last 15 times I've had QQ all in, I've lost 11 times. I'm not trying to start a debate. Also in tourneys I see so many lose with QQ. Any similar experiences?
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06-24-2014 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyApp
I have a question myself. Since this is the only thread I've found regarding 6 max microstakes NLHE.

I'm not new to online poker, but I'am new to Bovada.

out of the last 15 times I've had QQ all in, I've lost 11 times. I'm not trying to start a debate. Also in tourneys I see so many lose with QQ. Any similar experiences?
Your not going to start a debate. You uncovered the poker scandal of 2014... QQ is being under valued by Bovada software. Your incredible sample size of 15 QQ hands is proof.

I have had AA run negative over a 100 hands. You probably should give up poker if losing all in with QQ 11 out of 15 times makes you think you need to post about it here. I feel I am not being a dick either... You are seriously confused and need more help than I am willing to offer.
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06-24-2014 , 10:03 PM
While not feeling like a dick, you did great at sounding like one. Hope your day gets better.
I've not had anything else run negative, that's why I asked.
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06-24-2014 , 10:39 PM
I have had AA run negative over a 100 hands.

I think you're misunderstanding my question. I will reply without accusing you of needing help though. I'm not saying QQ lost x amount out of 15 hands. I'm saying out of 15 times having QQ they lost 11 times. The Odds of landing any pocket pair is about 1 in 215 hands. So out of about 2500 hands my QQ's lost nearly 70%. I know that is a small sample but let me reiterate I'm new at Bovada.... So what do you mean when you say out of 100 hands you've had AA run negative. Are you confused? lol
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06-24-2014 , 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyApp
While not feeling like a dick, you did great at sounding like one. Hope your day gets better.
I've not had anything else run negative, that's why I asked.
...First your hijacking someones thread (which I am now helping you with). Second... what response were you expecting exactly? You obviously don't understand variance if you think anything anything can be derived from 15 hands... or 1,000 hands... or 10,000 hands. I dont think you comprehend just how ridiculous your post is.
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06-24-2014 , 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyApp
I have had AA run negative over a 100 hands.

I think you're misunderstanding my question. I will reply without accusing you of needing help though. I'm not saying QQ lost x amount out of 15 hands. I'm saying out of 15 times having QQ they lost 11 times. The Odds of landing any pocket pair is about 1 in 215 hands. So out of about 2500 hands my QQ's lost nearly 70%. I know that is a small sample but let me reiterate I'm new at Bovada.... So what do you mean when you say out of 100 hands you've had AA run negative. Are you confused? lol
No you are the only one misunderstanding....

in a run of 100 pocket AA hands I have ran negative BB won/lost. This is variance and as my follow post explained to you nothing can be determined from the amount of hands you are talking about.
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06-24-2014 , 10:48 PM
x/f flop x/f turn

as played x/c river (flush jus completed and 6532 board)
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06-25-2014 , 03:27 AM
I would say to go for a x/r flop, to make him fold some Ax,Kx c-bets.This could be a bit out of line, but still better compared to call the 2nd barrell.
Anyway x/f flop almost always.
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