Pretty much.

That text is brutal. Reads like an obituary of her interest.

I disagree with this. Thursday night is like optimal first date night so if it's free for you say that and a place and if she says she's not free and doesn't give an alternative make a mental note that she's probably not into it and try another time and if she gives a bad response use your judgment on whether to give up or fire another bullet.

Fully agree with GG. Maybe I am a nit but to me asking someone's full week schedule early on is full-on intrusive and does not let them dodge gracefully if they need to.
I always go "wanna meet on Wed for a drink '? If they are interested but busy they will counter-offer anyway 98% of the time and the 2% is not worth sweating over.

you don't have a play

+1 to last 3 posts

wp, wp

Say nothing. She'll reach out in future and if not she not interested imo. In future get number as a result of making a date and not as a way to ask in the future

dick pics or bust

I'd probably go with

"Oh no worries. Next time I'm free is x day, how's that work? "

If she says no and doesn't counter then let it be till she contacts you.



I agree with never asking when she is free beforehand. She is supposed to make time for you, you are a busy individual in high demand (hypothetically) so you tell her when you are free and she can accommodate.

I get the vibe she's very hesitant.she's previously messaged something along the lines of "I never give my number out like this" and her other texts are pretty bland although she did ask me what I do for work one time.

I'll tell her I'm free x day one more time and then leave it at that I think.

Thx for the advice.

She sounds very uninterested and frankly boring/not confident based on her response about not having a free weekend. She better be hot for all this effort you're putting in.

Btw, I have always been of the belief that if they do not offer an alternative, that you should give up, but just did the opposite with girl who I had successful first date with last week. I asked her out to a specific event, she said she had plans, no alternative. Given the context of our good first date, I then asked her how next week looks AND invited to a specific event on Wed. She couldn't Wed, but countered with three alternative days.

She works weekends that's why she it's busy then. Not offering alternatives is a non ioi I reckon. She was pretty good looking and got the body I haven't been with for a while. Short(5'4?) with decent assets. A good size given I'm 5'8

Riiiiiiight. And if you end up having sex with her on the first date, I'll bet she'll lay another one on you along the lines of "I swear I never do this".

Unless she's working super early or super late she def does stuff on the weekend but is just using her job as an excuse crutch to let you down easy

While I agree with this generally speaking....esp in a situation where you know the girl from work or through a social group then sure.

However this is a cashier girl he met for 2-3 mins. I live in a big city in the US and meet girls all the time while they are on a break from work, getting coffee, or out running errands and only have a couple mins to talk. If you only meet a girl for a few mins and still get her number you have to deal with the fact she hasn't invested much time or interest into you. She may still very well be interested but the interest level could be anywhere from pretty low to very high. If you know the interest level is low I would just see what her schedule is going to be that week most often. You could also amp her interest level up over text but if that isn't going over that well then again, I would ask about her schedule.

I'm pretty busy in general so I very often just shoot a girl a couple nights that work for me to meet up for a date. The more interested they are the more likely they are to either jump on that or offer another option that works better. If I'm traveling and have a lot of free time I just tell the girl that and am willing to work with her schedule more anyway.

I get the whole....be alpha and make her adjust her schedule to yours thing but it's too rigid imo. Sure women like men that are leaders and take charge...but there is nothing wrong with leading her into showing you how to best seduce her. Every girl and every interaction is different so different various approaches are often called for.

I'd respond something like....I understand it can be awkward sometimes when strangers meet for the first time but I really like that you took a chance and are willing to step out of your comfort zone. Now you have me even more intrigued about you.

That doesn't seem optimal IMO

Comes across as too to from me unless as mentioned earlier he is following step 1

Not sure which post you're referring to but there are many plays that can be optimal with many different girls. When you find one that seems to work pretty often I would say that should generally be your go to play but you have to also realize every girl will be different and what is optimal with 70% of girls still won't be optimal with 30% of them.

Was referring to your second post. Based on this context and her perceived uninterested in doing anything with him I think sending a message like that comes across as weird

Lol.

Some girl added me on FB after we met once and dropped the "I'm never this forward" line after suggesting we see American Sniper. Needless to say, she drove the bus.

If she's not into him it doesn't much matter what he does....likely nothing will come of it.

That said people like being validated for good qualities that they have. Validating a girl for being adventurous or a risk taker in 1 specific scenario when she has stated she typically isn't does 2 things. It makes her feel good about the fact she gave out her number and took a risk and it encourages her to do more things of that nature....like actually meet up with him for a date.

This is so incredibly awful that I had to quote it, as to show my friends later.

For the relevant party: she's not interested. The naivety is astounding. Stick with GG he's more close to the right line of play.

edit: desperation is one of the most off-putting smells around, and it's very easy to pick up on.

She's definitely not interested and it's not even close to ambiguous. Lucid's line is pretty terrible. Drop it- if she magically becomes interested, she'll reach out to you. Getting a girl to give you her number =/ her being interested enough to go on a date.

We can just agree to disagree. There is a difference between being desperate and validating a shy or reserved girl for stepping out of her comfort zone and going for what she wants even tho she's hesitant about it.

There is a difference tho between a shy/reserved girl and an uninterested girl. If she's the latter then basically nothing will work anyway. However if she's the former then validating behaviors she does that you like/approve of can only work to your benefit.

All human beings like compliments and validation. It only makes sense to validate the behaviors you approve of in a girl you are trying to date...you want her to do more of that behavior.

"A few texts back and forth and she said maybe coffee. One or two more then I suggested drinks Thursday and she responded:

It sucks not having a weekend to enjoy but you get used to it. I don't do much really just hang out with a few friends that's all. This Thursday isn't good for me sorry."

This is not a shy/reserved girl...this is an uninterested girl. Even if she's shy/reserved your messages comes across terribly...it's not really an agree to disagree situation IMO. I doubt anyone here would support sending a message like that in 99.84% of situations.