That is a little weird. But you are only 19. It is more common for student parties for the host to request that everyone brings their own alcohol. Post 2009 this was the standard in NZ. Luckliy my hayday of 2004-2008 was keg parties but since the depression the price of kegs have skyrocked and no one has them anymore.

I think the older you get the more you will get invited to parties where the host provides more of the alcohol. Certainly at 21sts the host generally provides most if not all of the alcohol.

I assume Otty is meaning where the host provides alcohol for everyone. I'm assuming if he shows up to parties with no alcohol, one of his friends or a friend of a friend would be able to hook him up.

Slightly OT, but I though it'd be dumb to make a thread.

How important is living close to school for you guys? I'm moving out from my roommates in a few days or late next month and I'm torn between a few different places. Right now I don't really feel a, "I GOT TO HAVE THIS PLACE FEELING", so it's all coming down to logic, which I lack. The current place I live in now is somewhat far from school so it kinda blows having to drive to every bar. Also, done with roommates. Forever.

The biggest decision is distance to school. If I move like 10-15 miles from school I can get a pretty big 1BR for about 2/3 the price of places closer to my school. Thing is you're living in an area that tends to be filled with older working-class folks, so not the best for having fun. Also, it's a bitch to get people to come to your apartment/bars near you since you live so far away.

If I live closer to school I'm probably 1.5-2 miles away (so probably still won't walk most days), closer to bars/friends, and spend less on gas. Then again my rent is about $150-$200 higher ($700-$750 instead of $500-$550). Also, one of the places I'm looking at comes with a garage which is a huge plus in Minnesota.

Right now my gut is telling me closer to school=more motivation to study/workout/have a good time. I see myself saying, "**** it, schools too far."

Thoughts?

You need to be close to bars but not really to school. Does that fit or is the city the wrong shape?

Also, $750 rent: jealous.

I just turned 22 last week. I've been to a couple of 21sts where there was a tab at a bar for an hour or so. Yes all my friends are students. Still the host never provides anything except food.

Surely if there's a bar then it isn't at someone's house? Hence not a houseparty?

the only reason not to live close to school would be if the bar scene was by the other place. 200 bucks or whatever a month extra is soooooo worth it to live by the school in your situation. and it probably would be less once you factor in other stuff like gas to and from school, cabs, etc.

Omg people lack comprehension. I was just using that as an example of the host providing.

I have never been to a house party where the host has provided alcohol. That includes 18ths and 21sts.

Everyone always brings their own alcohol. Simple stuff.

Lack of comprehension isn't what happened when I mentioned that your example was pointless.

I was just showing that occasionally the host did provide something for the party. Which is exactly what we are talking about. Except we are more focused on house parties.

I don't think it would be that dumb to make a "what to look for in a new apt" thread. Unless there's one I overlooked.

Otty that is really weird. Definitely not to do with cultural differences across countries

I don't know if I've been to a party (a proper one) where the host hasn't provided at least some alcohol. Who are these people you hang out with?

I think it's stretching the definition of "host" to say "guy who has a birthday and is at a bar with his friends"

When the person hires a room at a club with a private bar they are the host.

um isnt the point of a 21st for a guys bros to take HIM out?

Uni students. None can afford to provide alcohol for 40 people.

Fair enough. I'm surprised you've never had it done, but it does become a lot more common post uni.

But you've never had keg parties or anything? We use to throw 1-2 keg parties a year, and 1-2 parties where we sink a hundred or so into making some nasty punch for everyone.

I wouldn't expect someone who was having a birthday party to have an open bar -- weddings pretty much always.

I don't like house parties so in ten years of university I can only remember one house party proper that I attended. I don't remember bringing any booze but I also didn't stay long.

I did have a lot of after parties and for those I supplied 100% of the booze. These were spontaneous gatherings of 25-60+ people after the clubs closed. The only places that sell booze at those hours charge like $80-100+ for a case of beer so obviously you can't expect people to bring stuff.

One year of school we would gather at my friend Mark's place that was a block from where I lived but had parking and outside space which in the fall is nice. Again he supplied all the beer and we'd often have BBQ so all the food. It would be ridiculous for 10-12 guys to go buy a six pack each when Mark could just buy two 24s a week and have them there. Mark had two roommates so between the three of them it was costing like $100-120/week to host our small pre-drink things. $40 bucks each is not going to kill anyone's budget. All three of them drank at my place for free, they got free E from me all the time which back then was $20 a pill not the $5 that you get them for these days, and I got Mark laid at least 20-25 times over two years. That isn't a bad return on buying a couple of cases of beer.

As I think about this I think how restricted alcohol sales are is likely a factor. If I could buy a six pack at the corner store on my way to Mark's I would have. The only place to buy beer or alcohol both required driving 20+ minutes round trip or if you didn't own a car at least 40 minutes by bus. Getting booze was a huge inconvenience. For my own apartment I used to do it every few weeks and I'd borrow my friend's Cherokee so I could really make the trip worth it.

It's not normal to have to go so far out of your way for alcohol is it? I have 4 bottle shops within about 10 mins drive. And I'm not even in a city.

US trip finalized. It's a bit of whirlwind tour, not looking forward to checking the bank statement when I'm back:

Aug 2-5th - Denver
5th-8th - Yosemite
8th-12th - San Fran
12th-15th -Philly
15th-17th - Richmond
17th-20th - Austin
20th-22nd -Nawlins
22nd- LA-home

Still tossing up whether to do 2 nights in Austin and 3 in Nawlins or vice versa. I'm thinking Nawlins may have more stuff but that could just be ignorance as everyone I speak to says Austin is amazing.

I think it's safe to say that I will be drinking every single night of this trip. Good times

aarono,

As others have said being close to bars is way more important than being close to class. I'd get as close to bars as possible and not worry too much if your apartment is smaller or a little more money. I lived <5 blocks from every single bar my senior year and I was sooooo much more motivated to go out. By far my best year of socializing.

fryke,

Awesome trip. Haven't been to either but from talking to quite a few friends who have I'm way more excited to visit Austin than New Orleans (probably means nothing to you but w/e).

Gonna move close to school. Just too many positives. To be feet from a bar requires either to live in a downtown dump or trendy $1.1k/mo place. I'll be like 1 mile from the great bars.

Also, getting near 10% body fat. Huge confidence boost!

Where I live the only person who is allowed to sell alcohol is the government and beer can only be sold by one store that is owed by the major breweries as a partnership.

The LCBO tends to be pretty convenient although it wasn't the case for where I went to university. Even now where I live there is one LCBO I can walk to but it keeps very short hours. There is a second one that I can still sort of walk to but I'd say it is on the outer limit of walking distance and certainly too far to carry stuff back. Neither have parking and street parking is hard to find in the area. Even though I live downtown I used to have to drive ~15 minutes each way to get to a good LCBO or in a pinch ~8 minutes each way to get to one with limited selection.

The government has allowed local wine producers to open up shops as long as they only sell their wine. There is one in my building and even though it was really bad wine when I was drinking every day I would shop there because sometimes you just don't feel like having to get in your car and deal with having to go to the LCBO.

Have fun in denver brah, I'm from a burb myself, I don't know a lot about where to go ect, but if you like good beer you will be able to find it easy throughout the city.

Yo. This might be a little off topic for this thread. I made this girl I was interested in pretty mad with some nonsense because she is overly sensitive and needy (ie: reading into things that I have not said). Anyway I texted her asking if she can meet up after she gets off work for a few minutes and she made some bull**** excuses for not meeting up. She works 2 minutes away from where I live lol. Anyway the reason I want to apologize is because I'm good friends with her roommate who is her relative and I will probably see her occasionally and I don't want there to be any bad feelings from her. In her text she asked what I wanted to talk about. Apologize over text? Reply with "k"? No reply at all? I'm trying to make an effort to make amends but she obv doesn't even care.