For all the rungood Mullen had, he used to be an overweight loser. If he really paid for that package during this time, then I wouldn't be surprised.

going out and talking to women using pua has a better success rate than sitting at home hoping they show up at your door, but thats about all the value there is

The gimmicks are silly but it's core is valuable. Basically tells guys to stop being pussies.

Unfortunately the guy who posted about PUA hasn't responded so my troll ended up being pretty worthless.

PUA, especially the Mystery Method or whatever it is, is almost entirely garbage.

lol at anyone believing mullen

But this thread is about the man's perspective, and you, kind Sirs, ARE A BUNCH OF DOUCHE-Y SPOILED ******S. I HATE THIS SELF-ABSORBED MALE GIMMIE GIMMIE GIMMIE PERSPECTIVE WHERE THE WOMAN IS TO BECOME THIS CROSS BETWEEN MOTHER PERFORMING ALL THE HOUSE AND SOCIAL WORK, AND INDULGING THINGS LIKE YOUR ******ED HOBBIES AND BEING SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE WORRY ABOUT THE MONEY SPENT ON SUCH STUPIDITY..INSTEAD OF SAVING FOR THE CHILDREN YOU SAY YOU WANT, BUT WILL DUMP ON HER DOORSTEP EVERY TIME IT CRIES/****S/IS THE LEAST BIT INCONVENIENT TO YOU AND PERFECT BFF WHO NEVER ASKS FOR ANYTHING AND GIVES YOU ANAL.

I pretty much hate this entire generation of males who've been allowed to grow up never learning how to actually be men, work hard, value family, and get your **** done. And just sit around endlessly whining about video games and memories of wings and beer. If these +putting the toilet seat down and vacuuming are the sum of your problems you should just start running around laughing and skipping all day, high-fiving people constantly..

'cause your life is pretty sweet. Man-up.

Someone is mad

wtf are you even talking about? we're all college age males trying to meet women. i have a good feeling the misogyny you're referencing is in no way associated with the participants in this thread

AwesomeO,

WTF?

We should switch usernames, I think it fits you the best!

While there are some core principles that are correct the PUA takes those concepts and goes way past the correct adjustment to the other extreme which is ******ed. It is like saying cooking a pizza 10 degree hotter makes it better so just think how much better 500 degrees hotter will be. The problem is that people that can read PUA and see the core principle generally don't need PUA and the people who can't figure it out on their own will never see the core principle.

PUA is not about helping guys do better with girls -- it is about making money for people who teach PUA. That leads to the vast majority of it being complete BS that is designed to appeal to the demographic that will have trouble with girls. It feeds into their belief system and thus reinforces their wrong thinking.

AwesomeO,

WTF? I can't even understand what you are trying to say.

I don't know, I'm pretty clueless about girl behavior and I read a part of the mystery method and it didn't seem like bull**** at all.

King Henry the 17th

First of all GO **** YOURSELF PUNKS!! I am 43 yrs old and have been married for 20 yrs. You ****ing punk internet pussies are the most disrespectful people I have ever seen and I gaurantee not one of you would have the balls to approach me or anyone else in real life. yeh treat people like **** and they like and will come back for more, really , thats a great way to live your life. i bet your mom really likes it when your dad cums all over her face and treats her like the cum guzzling whore she is. But I treat people with respect and would expect the same from you. When you finally grow hair on your balls and grow up, you will see what is important.You made a mistake and you jerkoffs think its your chance to make yourself feel like an ass on a public forum. Have fun. PM me if there are any further problems, jerk off.

I'm gonna let that comment go, I won't bash your face in. But let me tell you somethin... man to ****in mouse here. Normally in a situation like this I'd take my steel-tips to your ****ing temple. That goes for anyone making comments about me. You know and I know that I could crush that puny ****in' skull of yours in a second. So it's beyond me why you would say something like that without being able to back it up? What's worse, you sack of ****, is your as ghey as 100 dicks in a barrell. Weasel like that again ... you ****in' fisting, pussy, bagel eating, c sucker, ******... and I'll cut your nose off. Make no mistake.

i don't disagree that PUA isn't that great, but this logic fails to me. the way PUA people make money is by helping people do better with girls.

that's like saying that mcdonald's isn't about making food that people like--it's about making money. one leads to the other ducy

oh he mad

Since you admit that you are clueless what makes you think you can judge if something is good or bad material?

This stuff is marketed to be appealing to people like you so it will say what the writer thinks you want to hear.

AwesomeO went full ******
edit- thought it might be copy/pasta too but they matched up as the same crazy ideology

Nice trolling. But who supports the women financially?

Also, not every gives a **** about having a family. Just because you do, doesn't mean others do. The largest growing demographic is people living by themselves.

Lol, I was just trolling with some old 4L memes. Obviously should have kept it in 4L. They're hilarious and are often used there to confuse posters. Thought it would be funny. Sorry about that!

/AwesomeO

Yeah, it sounded like that one story with the 29 year old or whatever that has back problems. But that was terrible trolling regardless.

Pretty sure you are wrong on this one.

This in no way clears up what your point is. Would you care to try again?

Except you can eat McD today and you'll be hungry again tomorrow. Once you learn how to pick up women you don't need PUA ever again. They have absolutely no interest in improving their suckers skill with women because that would mean one less sucker. PUA creates the illusion of progress by creating worthless milestones.

PUA is also competing with other PUA for the limited amount of money and that causes a major problem -- a good program on how to pick up women doesn't market well. The need to market drives the content so that it is designed to be appealing to guys who can't get laid rather than correct.

2P2 is actually a great site to prove that PUA is garbage -- you have an abundance of nerds with money. Multiple members have paid for courses -- some have written TRs -- none have gotten laid.

Yeah, that one is good as well. Well, it seemed to work though, until i got banned.