ahh with your eyes closed tyson would probably sound like a lot of women

sure you do. it's just that we think of your misfired as something we got you to do, so it's cool. Plus, you can keep going right away....we can't.

One think I've enjoyed about getting older is that I can pretty much control how, when and where I want to finish.

Who said it has to be private? I've done it on public beaches / public parks / parking lots on the hood of a car / even an outdoor resort hottub (considering we were exposed to 50 or so balconies, I am likely in someones private porn collection) Public / semi-public sex acts are they most widely accepted "deviance" of women, (or at least the women I have been with)

Ya, Condoms are the worst but I honestly do not remember the last time I had to use one.

Something different on the sex topic.

Fishette made me laugh last night. Told me about having "The talk" with the 13 YO boy the other night on the way home from his baseball practice. I can only imagine how uncomfortable he was with his mom grilling him with things like "So what happens when you have sex with a girl" "So, what happens if she gets pregnant" and so on. I am trying to decide if I should give him a hard time about it or not.

tell him he can get a girl pregnant if he shakes hands with her up to three days after he masturbates.

omg, details on the convo? i never got one
have you already talked to him about sex?

That woman is too good to you Fish!

She gets the Girl.

You get the Boy.

It's the cuddling afterward.

LOL, Ya that would be funny! It's bad enough that Fishette warned him that he can DIE form having sex (The Aids)

LOL, No I haven't really talked to him about it. I will see if I can find an opportune moment to back Fishette up and give him the guys version.

Well..... Ya. She is a much better person than me all around. I didn't ask her to talk to the boy she just jumped right in and did it. I would have if she had asked me to but she also knows I would put it off until he was 24 and married or something.

I did talk to the oldest boy about sex, a long time ago. It was pretty much, "You know about sex right" "Ya, OK, ALWAYS wear a condom, not sometimes or most of the time but ALWAYS" "We do not want any babies happening by mistake" "All right, Now have fun"

About thirty years.

I never got a sex talk either. I got my parents being surprised that I was having sex at 22 when I brought my ex-gf home pregnant. (She was faking though, so it all worked out in the end).

I could not stop laughing at this.

damn diddy, you sure know how to avoid the crazy chicks

I know right. The truly sad thing is that neither that girl nor N.G. is the craziest girl I've ever dated.

I have had just some good, sweet girls interspersed though.

i lol'd to both of these.

Regarding the cuddling topic...I find it very difficult because I need my space/move around a lot when I sleep.

/envy

I can report that unexpected after work sex because your wife went and had a few beers and is horny and the kids are not home yet is GOOD sex.

Yes, Fishwhenican may be old, but he is still a Big Stud Buck!

I am a little late to this but

3 Hour sex - If you mean 3 hours of playing around sexual fun with a couple of bouts of "intercourse" in that period..sure. Been there a few times but after 15 years with the current gf...an hour or so is a more normal session and 3 hours was never "usual". However every girl I have known(15-20) would usuallly be unwilling to have even a hour of continuous nonstop intercourse(hate that word) under normal conditions. Some of you may have different experiances but these are sensitive bits and a hour is a lot of contact.

Oral - How can you want someone else put their mouth "there" to pleasure you and you won't kiss them?? If I want then to suck and lick it, I have to be willing to smile and lick it off their lips. It is mostly tasteless and is no worse than your own spit for texture...and don't tell me your spit grosses you out. Although if you really think about it? Would you drink a glass of your own spit?...eww. But you likely do everyday.

Faking it - Ladies....do we seem that fragile? Cause if you seem to have a orgasim...I am it doing that the same way or close next time. Are you really willing to "teach us that you like it that "wrong way", that doesn't work for you" just to save our egos? That is so sweet. Wrong but sweet. Just saying stop nicely or saying you are "tender" will save our spirt and still not teach us the "wrong" things.

Great sex - seems different for everyone. Stuff like the outdoors makes my gf tense and therefore doesnt' work but for others fear/tension seems to make it better. However on a regular basis things like the cabinet doors in the bathroom ripping of the hinges and dumping you both on the floor or the window popping out of the frame and crashing on the parents car in the driveway make for good stories but are not that fun for regular sex. .... and neither ended in orgasms.

Button Pushing for the less experianced - Most girls require manual or oral assistance to reach that 4th orgasim(and the first 3). Not all and not always but most...usually. While the girls love a good button pusher that is not what it is always about. The whole experince(help me ladies) seems to matter more to women than men.



Things like

• feelings
• build up
• talking
• laughing
• you actually care

So if you don't care...act like you do. It will help you and them.

....I was only going to make one short comment......lol

Katy,

Not sure where in this thread the best place to post this but underneath a woman seems like a good start.

I wrote the following two posts about four years ago in response to questions from Danny Ashman (posting name theBruiser500), a top online no limit player who seemed a bit lost sexually. I'll quote rather than link since I'm not confident linking to such a long thread "hits the right spot" so to speak :

"Danny,

I don't know you personally but from what I can see is that you are very bright, on your way to becoming a top no limit player, and already a top contributor to this forum. If I can find time to make more of an effort to become a top no limit player, I'll read what the top no limit writers write. Your stuff would be included.

I'm 51 so I really don't connect well with what 22 year olds are thinking these days, but I suspect many things stay the same. For example:

In 1950 most women didn't have orgasms during sexual encounters with men.
In 1975 most women didn't have orgasms during sexual encounters with men.
In 2005 most women don't have orgasms during sexual encounters with men.

It's not easy finding reliable data to back this up, partly because I'm relatively certain the following is also true:

In 1950 women often lied to their partners regarding whether they had an orgasm.
In 1975 women often lied to their partners regarding whether they had an orgasm.
In 2005 women often lie to their partners regarding whether they had an orgasm.

I'm also fairly certain that the following is true, more or less:

In 1950, 1975, and 2005, women appreciate the rare man who brings them sexual satisfaction, which in part includes bringing them to orgasm. These men can be good looking jocks/actors/celebrities/or the big man on campus, BUT OFTEN ARE NOT.

Once you get to the point where you have some relationships with women, and those relations eventually turn sexual, if you are in fact good in bed the word gets out.

To learn what women think (especially intelligent women), read the best women writers. To learn how to connect with women in bed, read the best serious sexual material written by women. The Hite Report is a good start.

Be warned. If you are one of the jocks/actors/celebrities/rock stars etc. whose girlfriend/lover has been faking orgasms (because your ego demands it), the Hite Report will make you very uncomfortable. OTOH, if you have never had a girlfriend or satisfying sexual encounter, you will develop confidence when the time comes that should serve you well.

Later (or perhaps earlier - the 2+2 archives really confuse me) in that same thread I wrote:

Besides expanding your social horizons, it helps to learn how to be good in bed. Most guys will say it isn't something you learn, it has to come naturally or you are "born with it" but I believe that is bull****.

I was socially alienated in high school and never had a date - never mind girlfriend. During my college years I came out of my shell. One thing I did was read a lot of novels written by women that centered on relationships with men, obviously including sexual relationships. In other words, if you want to get into women's heads and eventually hearts but you aren't yet close to any women read top fiction about women and men written by women.

Regarding sexual technique, try reading the Hite Report, which came out in 1976. It was widely criticized because the 3000 respondents to Shere Hite's survey had to answer her many hundreds of questions in essay format, and the respondents weren't typical - they were overwhelmingly urban, well-educated, career types, and usually feminist. But typical women aren't capable or willing to write essay answers to hundreds of questions regarding all aspects of their sexual lives, so the Hite Report became a landmark piece of work.

Where else can you get a whole chapter with a hundred different descriptions of how a woman touches herself or what they like or don't like about their sexual partners?

Where else can you get a hundred different descriptions of how a woman likes cunnilingus?

There was a little bit of man hating in the book, which you have to get past. A typical example went something like this:

"If you only knew who my boyfriend/lover/husband is. He is a well-known and very handsome/sexy/attractive jock/actor/celebrity/rock star. Everyone thinks we must have a tremendous sex life, but they can't imagine the truth. After he rolls off and falls asleep, I have to masturbate myself to orgasm. The jerk only thinks of himself and couldn't find a clitoris or what to do with it with a map and guidebook."

Naturally the book went heavily into the extent that woman fake orgasms and most men's ignorance regarding this fact (something I believe is still true today), but one lesson that hit home for me is that you can be a skinny, geeky, somewhat nerdy type and figure out how most if not all the plumbing works far better than the big arrogant jock/celebrity/big man on campus/whatever.

Comments?

~ Rick

OK ... went back and read OP... above does not address OP...

Below are examples...maybe you can understand the reasons...not sure I do. Girls all said "that was the most amazing" in a believable way and physically it seemed that way.

GF A - In a tent on a slope(feet a bit above heads) with parents in a camper next to us. Not sure what the important factor was.
GF A - a surprise - her first oral O ...

GF B - I had a injury and we had to be very careful and she had total control.... 2nd orgasim I though she was going to sufficate me. This was also her first time on a waterbed, but that did not seem to do the trick other times?

GF C - Little things...the usual but a bit different and it is hard to pin down what. It is like when we both get the right timing/angle but not anything that seems really differnet??? Seems to happen 3-5 times a year. Neither of us can ever pinpoint why? Any of you long time relationship people get this?

GF D - The first time together - frenzy everywhere - amazing for Me and her - never better than OK after that.....although the first time I thought she was sane? Maybe that was it? She seemed to like firsts....

See how long you can go if you think about cricket.

Rick,

I can whole-heartedly agree with your recommendation of The Hite Report. It was right there on my mother's bookshelf while I was a teenager and I devoured it before I'd ever kissed a girl. I'd like to think it gave a me a good head start. I kinda wish I could read it again right now.

Another book that from my mother's bookshelf that I fondly remember: Delta of Venus, a collection of erotic short stories by Anais Nin. While making this post I found that it's available online now, so excuse me for a while, okay?

Hah. Plus, you at least get a tea break?

And drinks