LOL. You're probably right, given the US's recent record in Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam. After all, if the US can't defeat a bunch of tree dwellers and opium growers, they will probably defeat the might of every other military power combined.

That was how the Cold War was won wasn't it? The Russians were left defenseless within a matter of hours? At least you have that experience to fall back on, now the war is vs Russia, +every other country.

The pro US argument is just so amusing. Top marks for national pride though.

US is occupying those countries. US annihilating those other governments. Iraq government GG.

Still awaiting the ban3 i see?

First off it would be a Canada + US + Mexico war, there is no way Canada or Mexico would even try to fight against the US, they would be gone in about a month or less.

Unless, there was suitable time for EU/Jap/Chn forces to arrive and enter Can/Mex and defend borders. And that would be VERY interesting.

As I originally said a NA vs World, the world would win easily. This wouldnt be a ground battle it would be a who can drop more nukes.

Without nukes, the world still wins, has more space and different access points to mainland NA, Northern Russia (alaska, not Npole), and both Oceans.

US zones overseas would be lost fast, the middle east enemies have the capability to destroy them just as quickly should ww3 happen, In all vs all. numbers>training

I am Canadian btw.

PS the last and only international war on the continental US was won by Canada. Germany never got ground forces into the US, but their subs got to east coast naval ports.

I do find it funny that US history seems to go American revolution --> US Civil war --> WWs

I like this. A lot. I want to find a counter argument against it though.

If you took part in and remember back to similar forum discussions at and before the time when the U.S. invaded Iraq, you may recall Europeans talking about how millions of U.S. soldiers would die in a matter of days; how Hussein would never be captured; how U.S. forces would never cross the Euphrates; and how the Iraq war would be the downfall of the U.S. because its military would be decimated. It was the widespread belief among Europeans (and Asians) during that time that the Iraqi military, which had been so difficult for the former Soviet Union to battle, would be a difficult foe for the U.S. military to defeat. After all, the USSR and the U.S. had similar military powers, right? No...not right at all.

People from around the world don't understand just how militarily superior the U.S. armed forces are to those of other states. It's not that these people lack the information they need to realize it; it's that they don't want to believe it because it would scare the hell out of them if they allowed themselves to understand.

Although i don't necesarrily disagree, your post is a moot point, not relevant to this argument.

If we all must follow your rules in this debate, then please define for us the word "power."

lol

$&%$ u jokers. You are a complete worthless moron. The USA isnt fighting Afghanastan. Im pretty sure they are crawling through caves trying to find a bunch of cowards who only can fight via surprise attack. If we were fighting the whole country we would just have kept droping bombs till it was a #$% hole in the ground you ignorant #%#*. Also may I ask what country you are from cause im sure they probably are in Afghanastan trying to "help" us. LOL.

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Isn't that a bit like the Vietnam War where you fought an army (as opposed to a group of militant terrorists) on their home territory? How did that turn out for USA?

government-wars ITT

I haven't read most of the thread, but lol at thinking there would be a 'winner'.

The futurist article someone linked to is pretty funny. I don't argue about China being a decent way behind, but to say Europe has achieved two at most is ridiculous. Europe is comparable or ahead in economy size (#1), immigration (#5), and aid (#9), and has a huge influence on global brands (#2), technological advancement (#6), culture (#7), and has a number of top universities (#4), although admittedly not as many as the US. And that's not even getting into military power, 'greatest human achievements' and living up to the 'double standard' of superpowerdom, which are all ridiculous to try and compare, nor any of the measures that weren't included - in some of which Europe blows the US out of the water.

Trying to compare places like that, as if there's some set of criteria that define what's better, is ****ing ridiculous, but even funnier when the criteria one side tries to use are stupid and don't even hold up their argument.

Well WWIII would be a loose for everyone, with that said when we americans get off our fat asses and unite as one the effects to our enemys is devestating.

The Vietnam War as you mention above was not a conventional army per say, they had some conventional forces but fought a gorrilla style war for the most part, with china involved by proxy.

The U.S was about to achieve victory in that war, but anti war sentiment at home, a weak boned Gov, mounting casualtys, and Walter Cronkite which was considered the voice of the nation at the time said the war in Vietnam was unwinnable(Post TeT offensive).

Coupled with the pics of viet cong dead inside the parimeter of the U.S embassy( Which was only 4-6 viet cong, fact ) being plasterwed all over the news at home after the TeT offensive, caused our goverment to pull the plug to save face with American public.

Prior to the TeT offensive I believe it was operation rolling thunder, was the systematic mass areial bombing of north vietnam and cambodia, and info from U.S ground intelligence was that the bombing was VERY close to bringing N Vietnam leaders to the table for a cease fire agreement.

would WW3 be a lose for everyone because alto of people would die?
Well more than alot of people are going to die regardless. LOL

Either way a **** load of peeps would die fosho, however if the U.S consolidated all of its over seas assets to the mainland, the U.S would be invasion proof. If the war was with conventional weapons only. Nukes **** that, its game over for everyone if thats the case.

I mean the U.S has the most advanced war Tech in the world with the exception of the tech we sold to our allies.Our navy with Ageis cruisers, our Aircraft carriers, and fast attack subs alone is just WOW! Airforce just the stealth bomber alone, which by the way has radar sig of a anemic seagull can carry and deliver tons of diff conventional munitions.


This argument is pointless though as the casualtys would be unaceptable for any country to bear.

lol

what if the world consolidated all their resources and formed a army consisting of the most intelligent and elite forces of each country and armed them with the most advanced equipment and weaponry the world can conceive?of course coordination would be a problem as them chinese mother****ers dont speak english.

i think the world would suffer a 2.5% casualty(150 million approx) and 90% of american males would be dead before the american president finally cracks and commits suicide and the Latino vice president surrenders unconditionally.
since war has never been fought on american soil itself,i foresee casualty rates would be significantly higher than the previous world wars

LOL.

did somebody invade america in the last century?and i dont mean pussyfights with the red indians or the war against aids.

Look up American Civil War. Wait, I'll do it for you.
http://www.militaryfactory.com/american_war_deaths.asp

You can look at the wiki page too although they list WWII as biggest if you include injuries as well as deaths. Civil War was by far our worst in number of dead soldiers and it was all done right here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...ualties_of_war

Now contrast those dead in Civil War vs WWII to percentage of the population and Civil War really looks bad.

Wow the article AngryPanda links to is awesome. Go USA for all its awesomeness.

i know the civil war is american history but its a domestic dispute and the world has nothing to do with it.

Haters wanna hate, ballers wanna ball, the USA doesn't do none of that at all, it just pisses on you like you want it to.....