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06-10-2021 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Esooa
oh yeah I said this in wolf chat before we left

"6 word most sad story meme:

I NEED TO RERAND THIS GAME, APOLOGIES"
I personally don't mind much since I got seer again anyway.
06-10-2021 , 02:42 PM
By the way, this is WHY Birdman is such a good werewolf player. He is EXTREMELY hard to vote off in any role because he just doesn't stop. He lets nothing go. He litigates everything until his accusers just throw up their hands.

I let him do it to me once and we handed him the game. I can be just as stubborn, but unfortunately I can't be in the thread all day. If we're going to get him, villagers who think he IS wolfing need to be resolved and determined.

If we aren't going him, I'll look around for another vote, but I need to make lunch first.
06-10-2021 , 02:43 PM
"If I'm wrong about one of them, it's almost certainly Dustin"

I read this as, if I'm wrong about wrong, the wolf is almost certainly Dustin still.

I read her followup as her thinking out loud of more reasons Dustin might be a wolf.

I changed my mind when you pointed out I was wrong about the first post
06-10-2021 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I love this 13er crew that we have now btw especially getting to know some of the newer players like Zeus and now Esooa-- it's been a lot of fun.
Only person in this lineup that I still am sort of clueless on reading is Kami but I can get there.
These are definitely a good time, I like almost all the regulars who play these now. Definitely hasn't always been the case.
06-10-2021 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Esooa
I've disliked that crossnerd seems to be catching up but is primarily quoting posts with the intention to talk about non-game related things. I think it's wolfy.
Cross is like that but she also has a way of being strangely villagery. I think what you're referring to is NAI though.
06-10-2021 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by bsball8806
The issue with this for me, and it will be hard to put into words, is that if you understood her follow-up post about dustin being potentially being wolfier than birdman, it would be really hard for you to have misinterpreted her first post.



Your stated interpretation of this is that "if there's a more likely wolf in this bunch, it's dustin" - which would mean that the way you're reading this post is either

1. "i think they're both villagers, but if i'm wrong about on one, it's dustin"

or

2. you literally misread "dustin" and replaced him with birdman in your head

we know it's not #2, because when I called you out on it earlier, you didn't seem to understand my point, which you would have if it was literally a mix-up of names in your mind. so i think it has to be #1 for it to make any logical sense for you.

The issue is that we know clearly you didn't actually think VR made a post saying "Dustin and birdman are both villagers" because the entirety of the thread has been about VR thinking might both be wolves. Which kind of makes me think that you were making up your "mix-up" and thus makes me question whether you're making reads at all, or are instead just talking about posts and hoping no one catches on to your fake reads.
Salient point by bsball.

Esooa is hereby downgraded to Wonder Bread.
06-10-2021 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
By the way, this is WHY Birdman is such a good werewolf player. He is EXTREMELY hard to vote off in any role because he just doesn't stop. He lets nothing go. He litigates everything until his accusers just throw up their hands.

I let him do it to me once and we handed him the game. I can be just as stubborn, but unfortunately I can't be in the thread all day. If we're going to get him, villagers who think he IS wolfing need to be resolved and determined.

If we aren't going him, I'll look around for another vote, but I need to make lunch first.
ya this is basically why mets was so good a long time ago

he made it so lunching him was such a chore that no one ever wanted to do it

and it's definitely a compliment - but also speaks to how just putting in effort makes you good at this game
06-10-2021 , 02:45 PM
[QUOTE=Esooa;57154493]"If I'm wrong about one of them, it's almost certainly Dustin"

I read this as, if I'm wrong about wrong, the wolf is almost certainly Dustin still.
/QUOTE]

"if I'm wrong about wrong" can you elaborate what you mean by this?
06-10-2021 , 02:46 PM
[QUOTE=bsball8806;57154501]
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Originally Posted by Esooa
"If I'm wrong about one of them, it's almost certainly Dustin"

I read this as, if I'm wrong about wrong, the wolf is almost certainly Dustin still.
/QUOTE]

"if I'm wrong about wrong" can you elaborate what you mean by this?
lmao oops

"If I'm wrong about one, the wolf is almost certainly still Dustin"

Is what I tried to say
06-10-2021 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
He lets nothing go. He litigates everything until his accusers just throw up their hands.
Rofl.
06-10-2021 , 02:49 PM
Okay, I can see how that phrasing was ambivalent.

Esooa, you are now sourdough bread. And I'm hungry. Back in a bit.
06-10-2021 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
By the way, this is WHY Birdman is such a good werewolf player. He is EXTREMELY hard to vote off in any role because he just doesn't stop. He lets nothing go. He litigates everything until his accusers just throw up their hands.

I let him do it to me once and we handed him the game. I can be just as stubborn, but unfortunately I can't be in the thread all day. If we're going to get him, villagers who think he IS wolfing need to be resolved and determined.

If we aren't going him, I'll look around for another vote, but I need to make lunch first.
this is gaslighting

you were wrong and it was YOUR choice to argue about it instead of just saying "yeah I was wrong"

this is what I mean about how admitting you are wrong is so much easier and less stressful than what you did

after 100 posts of arguing you finally admitted you were wrong

don't act like it is my fault
06-10-2021 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
Okay, I can see how that phrasing was ambivalent.

Esooa, you are now sourdough bread. And I'm hungry. Back in a bit.
I'm sure the food analogies are helping
06-10-2021 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bsball8806
ya this is basically why mets was so good a long time ago

he made it so lunching him was such a chore that no one ever wanted to do it

and it's definitely a compliment - but also speaks to how just putting in effort makes you good at this game
ok you just compared me to mets

i'm done

gl everyone
06-10-2021 , 02:51 PM
[QUOTE=Esooa;57154504]
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Originally Posted by bsball8806

lmao oops

"If I'm wrong about one, the wolf is almost certainly still Dustin"

Is what I tried to say
I don't think anyone talks like this but I can't really make the argument that you didn't read it that way because I'm not you

But from a semantics/linguistics point of view I'm having a hard time seeing someone phrase a sentence like

"if i'm incorrect about [fact A and fact B], [fact A is the correct one]"

people almost always say

"if i'm incorrect about [fact A and fact B], then [explanation about why fact B is wrong]"

and i think because of that, people's reading comprehension usually follows that same pattern

and i know this is well into things no one cares about but i'm having a hard time getting past it. maybe i should take my own advice and move on.
06-10-2021 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
ok you just compared me to mets

i'm done

gl everyone
i mean it is what any good ww wolf does

makes it hard to lunch them

i did it back when i was good, you do it now

you can't seriously claim you aren't aware of this
06-10-2021 , 02:52 PM
[QUOTE=bsball8806;57154519]
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Originally Posted by Esooa

I don't think anyone talks like this but I can't really make the argument that you didn't read it that way because I'm not you

But from a semantics/linguistics point of view I'm having a hard time seeing someone phrase a sentence like

"if i'm incorrect about [fact A and fact B], [fact A is the correct one]"

people almost always say

"if i'm incorrect about [fact A and fact B], then [explanation about why fact B is wrong]"

and i think because of that, people's reading comprehension usually follows that same pattern

and i know this is well into things no one cares about but i'm having a hard time getting past it. maybe i should take my own advice and move on.
the way I see it

"It's almost certainly Dusin"

Tells me, the wolf is Dustin

Usually imo in phrases like this, the person who "it is" is the wolf

It's probably dumb to read it like that. But that's what u get
06-10-2021 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Esooa
the way I see it

"It's almost certainly Dusin"

Tells me, the wolf is Dustin

Usually imo in phrases like this, the person who "it is" is the wolf

It's probably dumb to read it like that. But that's what u get
fair enough, i'm noting it and moving on
06-10-2021 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ShipItUp
I randed seer so I feel you're pain lol.

I still remember you owning me in an anniversary game as a wolf, you were on a team with Binkles. I had a vig and was going to shoot you and you basically punked me out of it and then stayed alive until the end and won. One of the only games I distinctly remember from that time period because of how hard you and binkles wrecked me.
I actually remember this game LOL! I think that was the big Pixar game. Wow, seems like ages ago. Sorry for being so jerky back then
06-10-2021 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
this is gaslighting

you were wrong and it was YOUR choice to argue about it instead of just saying "yeah I was wrong"

this is what I mean about how admitting you are wrong is so much easier and less stressful than what you did

after 100 posts of arguing you finally admitted you were wrong

don't act like it is my fault
I don't think that's a fair characterization of my posting, but I'll let the village decide.
06-10-2021 , 03:01 PM
Votes from post 7 to post 445
Night in 4:59:57

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4 Birdman10687 aaronk56 (7), Esooa (98), VoraciousReader (33), Crossnerd (7)
1 Montecore Doctor Zeus (31)
1 iraisetoomuch ShipItUp (42)
1 Esooa Birdman10687 (83)
1 aaronk56 filthyvermin (12)
4 not voting iraisetoomuch (20), Kawamii (0), Luckbox Inc (50), Montecore (0)
1 Error bsball8806 (48)
06-10-2021 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Esooa
I've disliked that crossnerd seems to be catching up but is primarily quoting posts with the intention to talk about non-game related things. I think it's wolfy.
To quote MY octopus teacher,

06-10-2021 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
I actually remember this game LOL! I think that was the big Pixar game. Wow, seems like ages ago. Sorry for being so jerky back then
Omg yes it was 100% the pixar game, that was such a fun one, I liked how all the character roles were randed and the characters that randed wolf were given an evil spin in their flavor.

Also no need to apologize, relative to a lot of people that posted back then you were a saint lol.
06-10-2021 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by bsball8806
I don't think anyone talks like this but I can't really make the argument that you didn't read it that way because I'm not you



But from a semantics/linguistics point of view I'm having a hard time seeing someone phrase a sentence like



"if i'm incorrect about [fact A and fact B], [fact A is the correct one]"



people almost always say



"if i'm incorrect about [fact A and fact B], then [explanation about why fact B is wrong]"



and i think because of that, people's reading comprehension usually follows that same pattern



and i know this is well into things no one cares about but i'm having a hard time getting past it. maybe i should take my own advice and move on.
Just to beat this horse dead-- it's all about what the referent "it" is referring to.

"If X (A or B) then it's Y", then "it" there should likely just refer back to what X is-- which was "if I'm wrong about one of them", and not some extra-contextual considerations that are hard for me to grasp too.
Almost certainly NAI though.
06-10-2021 , 03:13 PM
I actually legitimately don't understand that post by Birdman upon reflection. I admit I hate to be wrong. But I didn't think I was wrong here and just refuse to admit it. I didn't think I was wrong. I still don't.

      
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