So it seems that we are having issues finding wolves here. I would rather get the wolf-hunting done sooner rather than later so we don't have to ******edly CFD another villager tonight.

First, I believe at least one of g0tgame/hoya/xxsooted is a wolf, possibly two. This is simply due to the fact that they are all good wolves, none of them have done anything clearing, and I am having trouble finding wolves elsewhere. After being dead wrong on esse, I am not emotionally equipped to dive down this path aorn, but it's something to keep in mind.

There's a fair chance that one (or both) of YG/OTI is a wolf, but there is really nothing wolfy about either of them at the moment.

I suppose either jonnyd or Cadaz could be a wolf, but I'm not really feeling either of them as strong possibilities.

So today, I'd like to take a look into this pile of people who have been flying UTR and not really getting much attention at all:

Donkx4
Rollwave
Filthy
JD
Perdition
TomVeil
Aicirt
Derwipok

There has to be at least 2-3 wolves buried in this pile. It would be nice if everybody took a look and built a wolf case or two from here, or gave a solid reason to clear any of these people.

derwipok

dean, have you played much w/ donk^4?

I don't have much experience w/ him so I don't have anything to compare w/ what I'm seeing from him here.

I agree that many of perditions reads seem completely made up.

I've played with him a few times, he seems to be playing his vil game but I may be clearing him too lightly for erroneously calling him a wolf quite a few times.

Same goes for perdition.

Speaking of made up reads, how about this one?

Rollwave for emphasis.

Rebonky-donky

I would like a clarification from Rollwave on what wolfy posts filthy has made, b/c on a reread I found him pretty villagery

rollwave

with my comrade dean

If you guys really do want to take a big swing, sooted is the right target.

so this post right here is lock villa stuff

sorry for the confussion earlier CPH

Also can someone explain the apparent link between gder and Andy?

Thedean, what u reckon, sooted-ament?

this is the main argument against filthyvermin. He mentions what he will do "tomorrow".

However he went to great lengths day 1 posting "rebonk is a villager" 3 times, including 1 night post, to give himself a fake seer appearance.

This is incriminating because somebody trying to get nightkilled would be in a mindset of trying to bring on a nk now, not trying to avoid a lynch later.

(there's also a bunch of smaller stuff in other posts, false promises of future activity, buddying up to other players, tmi, non-committal stances, but i think this issue is the biggee)

Right on, my man.

Villager rollwave doesn't make observations based on vague generalizations, he has an acute attention to detail and he makes very specific and thoughtful cases. The fact that he made that post about filthy, didn't respond to my query regarding why, and then came back 45 minutes later is very bad for him. He has said on multiple occasions that he doesn't like re-hashing the obvious in big mish-mashes, and that's exactly what he did instead of laying out whatever logic he had on filthy.

We can nail sooted tomorrow.

Why are you SO SURE of this?

I do not recall him making a mistake of this kind in the moviemix game.

I agree dean, rollwave has suffered severe brain damage since last game OR he's a wolf

Last game he was pounding on every little incongruence by anyone, riding the thread like it was his bathroom tube

guy is smart as hell, its to be expected that he'll make villagery snippets now and then as a wolf.

these were the other lesser things i didnt mention in the last post.

332 - "it may be premature but i'm temporarily semi-clearing esse and cphoya" - impossible to be any more non-committal than this. looks like he can't wait to find any excuse to reverse his read on them.

920/1879 - buddies up to thedean/jfdan by praising their performance in moviemix and wanting their expert opinions which is how a wolf would try to suck up to a villager.

912 - tmi. looks like he knew ibavly was gonna flip villager and he wanted to get off that wagon and get credit for a wolf vote that didnt matter.

1868 - false promise of future activity.


filthyvermin wolf will spew thedean and jfdan pretty hard, and cphoya to a lesser extent.

Logical deduction, my friend. The wolf writeups strongly imply this, plus a game with all lost wolves makes no sense as the wolves will end up accidentally lynching/NK'ing each other. If the wolves are in fact all lost, this is just some odd bastardization of WW.

After Filthy posted a read list D1 and I called him a villager, he has done a lot of the wolfy things he did in the last game when we were wolves together.

I could support wagons on any of the following people:

FilthyVermin
Rebonk (Despite Dean's thoughts, I think he is a wolf)
OTI
Younguns

People trying to lynch me or lynch Donk are suspect because both of us are generally easy mislynches for wolves to wagon. Donk may be a wolf here, but I don't think so at this time.

FilthyVermin

Perdition listed oti as dead.
He listed me as neutral but said i'm his second choice person to vote for.
He has andy as villager and gder as a wolf when they have obviously tied their roles together.

these are made up.

nothing made up about finding this wolfy.

I'm working through these and have been looking at some others.

I don't want to lynch filthy or Tom today. Haven't reread Aicirt, but I had him as slight villa for some reason or other.

Rollwave I've already posted about.

derwi is an interesting case. I remember him being much higher volume in either role -- but it's more difficult to post a lot of content as a wolf so him not posting is a bad sign, although not a reason to lynch him alone.

I'm looking for the right word to describe him this game, but I can't find it. Basically, it seems like a much higher % of his posts this game are focused on questioning the reads of others instead of offering up reads himself.


For example:
It just seems like he's doing an awful lot of saying people are = rand to be a wolf

What if the wolves are all lost, but the team is strengthened to accommodate balance issues?

It makes NO sense that Flagg has to peek wolves to join the team if he knows who all the wolves are.

Wasn't we through this yesterday?