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02-24-2012 , 01:12 AM
Haha yeah, the only reason I am still playing them is the slim chance of binking a good score. That would make it all worth it, but it would want to happen very soon.

Thanks!
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02-24-2012 , 10:42 AM
MTTs can suck my balls. How can I be 130 BI under EV over 200 tourneys?

PLO cash FTW
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02-24-2012 , 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Alrighty Roo
MTTs can suck my balls. How can I be 130 BI under EV over 200 tourneys?

PLO cash FTW
I'd be shocked if anything can come anywhere near being accurate with mtt ev.
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02-24-2012 , 12:36 PM
Seconded
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02-24-2012 , 01:23 PM
If anyone on POG is interested, I'm considering hiring another horse to play something for me.

I'm really lenient and you can play whatever you can show a positive graph over a solid sample size. My staking package includes incentives too.

Its a $1k stake.
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02-24-2012 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Systolic
If anyone on POG is interested, I'm considering hiring another horse to play something for me.

I'm really lenient and you can play whatever you can show a positive graph over a solid sample size. My staking package includes incentives too.

Its a $1k stake.
I just wish I could play anywhere
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02-24-2012 , 04:22 PM
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I just wish I could play anywhere
You can play on Carbon or RPM
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02-24-2012 , 07:23 PM
How secure is all this for American players, really? Can't same thing happen?
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02-24-2012 , 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by chim17
How secure is all this for American players, really? Can't same thing happen?
Of course it can. It's a risk.
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02-24-2012 , 07:26 PM
Like.. I wanna play pretty bad.. I miss it.. and would like the extra income again (assuming games aren't so hard now I'm no longer a winner).

But seems like such a big risk.
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02-24-2012 , 07:28 PM
cashing out is quite a hassle on them all i believe
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02-24-2012 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by chim17
How secure is all this for American players, really? Can't same thing happen?
I play on intertops and just pretend the real money is play money...

It's been pretty fun grinding up a roll from $0.00 I'm currently grinding sng's and cash with the goal of hitting a $100 bankroll. (I know, I know, quiet)

On merge, they have freeroll step sng's where step 3 pays $1 to the winner.

On Intertops they have $50 fr's twice a day for tickets into weekend tournaments and a few weekends a month they hold $500 fr's that pay real cash. The daily fr's get 250 people and the weekend ones get 800-900 people.
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02-24-2012 , 07:36 PM
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I play on intertops and just pretend the real money is play money...

It's been pretty fun grinding up a roll from $0.00 I'm currently grinding sng's and cash with the goal of hitting a $100 bankroll. (I know, I know, quiet)

On merge, they have freeroll step sng's where step 3 pays $1 to the winner.

On Intertops they have $50 fr's twice a day for tickets into weekend tournaments and a few weekends a month they hold $500 fr's that pay real cash. The daily fr's get 250 people and the weekend ones get 800-900 people.
This sounds like what hell is gonna be like. But I may try it all the same.
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02-24-2012 , 07:50 PM
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cashing out is quite a hassle on them all i believe
Not really. They send you a check, it just takes a while.
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02-24-2012 , 07:54 PM
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This sounds like what hell is gonna be like.
For my opponents! Bwahahahaha!
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02-24-2012 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by chim17
Like.. I wanna play pretty bad.. I miss it.. and would like the extra income again (assuming games aren't so hard now I'm no longer a winner).

But seems like such a big risk.
Keep your bankroll offline except for the bare minimum to play in the games. If your online money only represents less than a month of profits then your risk is much lower than your reward. If you're really pessimistic, play lower stakes to keep risk even lower while improving your bb/100 or ROI so that you can turn the money over faster.
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02-24-2012 , 08:04 PM
At Intertops, min check withdraw is $500 and also has a $50 fee.

However, they're pretty good about getting people their money.
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02-24-2012 , 08:37 PM
I don't think I will ever understand why someone would call a raise PF, get squeezed, then overship the squeeze with a marginal pocket pair..

Can someone please explain that logic to me?
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02-24-2012 , 08:38 PM
Someone hit their set on the river eh?
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02-24-2012 , 08:41 PM
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Someone hit their set on the river eh?
He got it in with 66 against my AK and held

I get that I shipped on a flip, I figured it was +EV because I doubted I was against anything worse than a flip and because of the original PF raiser (who folded), I was getting better than 2:1. (mostly because I rarely put AA or KK in someone's call/ship range)

I just dont understand the logic of the guy who got squeezed.
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02-24-2012 , 08:42 PM
I mean the guy with the 66 has to think he could be running to at the very least a higher pocket pair, right?

How can you overship with a hand like that?
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02-24-2012 , 08:48 PM
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I don't think I will ever understand why someone would call a raise PF, get squeezed, then overship the squeeze with a marginal pocket pair..

Can someone please explain that logic to me?
Best effort to explain something that is likely bad in general:

Squeezee has noticed that squeezer squeezes light and overly frequently. Squeezee goes set mining and squeezer squeezes from late position. Squeezee gets folded to and decides that squeezer does this enough that his calling range is small, making the overshove profitable because of the frequency with which squeezer folds. Plus, where squeezer calls squeezee is rarely WB and is often flipping.

Run the math if you want; if squeezee thinks you're a lagfish he might think he's generating a lot of folds with little risk.
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02-24-2012 , 08:51 PM
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Best effort to explain something that is likely bad in general:

Squeezee has noticed that squeezer squeezes light and overly frequently. Squeezee goes set mining and squeezer squeezes from late position. Squeezee gets folded to and decides that squeezer does this enough that his calling range is small, making the overshove profitable because of the frequency with which squeezer folds. Plus, where squeezer calls squeezee is rarely WB and is often flipping.

Run the math if you want; if squeezee thinks you're a lagfish he might think he's generating a lot of folds with little risk.
I mean I see that logic, and that makes some sense

But even in the live games I play, I see some of the biggest donks in our games overshipping with middle pocket pairs, and I've never understood it
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02-24-2012 , 08:51 PM
And yeah, I do realize that he's probably wrong about his assumptions about your squeezing range, such that folds are in actuality rare and the WB scenarios are frequent.
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02-24-2012 , 08:54 PM
Oh, other effort to explain it:

Assuming he's a complete donkey, he may think you would've CALLED with a huge pair because you want to get more money in amirite?

EDIT: Or he may just overvalue pps and love getting it in.
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