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03-24-2021 , 10:32 PM

#7626

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687

I saved this tweet because I knew some jamoke was going to have this exact donkey take. Probably could have guessed it would be IANAW.

there is causality or there isn't?

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03-24-2021 , 10:35 PM

#7627

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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf

there is causality or there isn't?

your reading comprehension is so bad it almost defies belief

the tweet didn't say "there is no causality", it is saying there is causality but that your understanding of how causality is working in this case is childish.

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03-24-2021 , 10:36 PM

#7628

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Undeniable fact doesn't mean what I thought, apparently.

Confirms my belief system seems more apropos.

Then again I'm pretty big on the people confirm their belief system idea, so maybe that's what I'm doing.

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03-24-2021 , 10:36 PM

#7629

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at what point in this or any discussion of this topic is somebody pointing to one particular story or publication?

sorry man but that tweet is a ridiculous strawman

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03-24-2021 , 10:37 PM

#7630

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

A reputable one?

oh, well I guess that settles it, then

if they're reputable

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03-24-2021 , 10:38 PM

#7631

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Originally Posted by pwnsall

Undeniable fact doesn't mean what I thought, apparently.

Confirms my belief system seems more apropos.

thoughts on "fits into my belief system" instead?

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03-24-2021 , 10:39 PM

#7632

pwnsall

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Yeah something like that. I ain't a wordsamatician.

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03-24-2021 , 10:42 PM

#7633

eyebooger

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687

is speculation on your part.

Do I have things wrong?

Let's start here: Are Google, Facebook, Twitch and Wikipedia (among others) blocked by the Chinese government?

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03-24-2021 , 10:50 PM

#7634

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Originally Posted by eyebooger

Do I have things wrong?

Let's start here: Are Google, Facebook, Twitch and Wikipedia (among others) blocked by the Chinese government?

I don't know

Do you?

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03-24-2021 , 10:57 PM

#7635

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687

I don't know

Do you?

Unless this (and many other sites) are wrong, yes they are.

https://www.comparitech.com/privacy-...lockedinchina/

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03-24-2021 , 11:07 PM

#7636

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Originally Posted by eyebooger

Unless this (and many other sites) are wrong, yes they are.

https://www.comparitech.com/privacy-...lockedinchina/

alright

well let's just assume for now they are

so what?

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03-25-2021 , 08:57 AM

#7637

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Well, I'd say that's a pretty big sign of an authoritarian government.

Combined that with the news of arrest of critics and I don't think it's unreasonable to be skeptical of approval numbers.

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03-25-2021 , 09:21 AM

#7638

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Originally Posted by eyebooger

Well, I'd say that's a pretty big sign of an authoritarian government.

Not having access to google is a "pretty big sign" of an authoritarian government? Why?

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03-25-2021 , 09:26 AM

#7639

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Originally Posted by eyebooger

Combined that with the news of arrest of critics and I don't think it's unreasonable to be skeptical of approval numbers.

Scant evidence on this at all, but even that scant evidence there is says he was arrested for soliciting a prostitute (according to your source).

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03-25-2021 , 09:31 AM

#7640

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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf

at what point in this or any discussion of this topic is somebody pointing to one particular story or publication?

sorry man but that tweet is a ridiculous strawman

lol sorry but this is just hillarious:

The Tweet:

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No one is saying racists read The Economist, see a Sinophobic article, then go out and commit hate crimes. That's a child's idea of causality.

The point is, a constant stream of fear in the media eventually filters its way into the culture. That's what we're dealing with now.

Your Post:

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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf

MSM has been pushing, what, "china manipulating currency value", "china dumping cheap goods onto market"

none of that is racist, and none of that suggests shooting up local businesses run by chinese people

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03-25-2021 , 09:40 AM

#7641

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687

Not having access to google is a "pretty big sign" of an authoritarian government? Why?

The government preventing its citizens from seeing information freely available to the rest of the world isn't authoritarian?

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03-25-2021 , 09:42 AM

#7642

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687

Scant evidence on this at all, but even that scant evidence there is says he was arrested for soliciting a prostitute (according to your source).

Even if he was, you're okay with this?

And he's not the only one.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ears-says-wife

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/709_crackdown

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03-25-2021 , 09:50 AM

#7643

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Originally Posted by eyebooger

Even if he was, you're okay with this?

sorry are you asking if I am ok that prostitution being outlawed...or what exactly are you asking?

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03-25-2021 , 09:51 AM

#7644

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Originally Posted by eyebooger

The government preventing its citizens from seeing information freely available to the rest of the world isn't authoritarian?

I don't know. I think if you were up to speed on what google is doing and their relationship with US intelligence it doesn't seem that surprising.

But like...didn't we do the exact same thing when we outlawed tiktok because it was owned by a Chinese company?

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03-25-2021 , 09:52 AM

#7645

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just the fact that a discussion about anti-Asian racism has turned into a critique of the Chinese government is racist in and of itself

like - these were Korean spas in America attacked by a white man and yet somehow we are arguing about the CCP? GTFO

birdman is again right about basically everything (leaving out my full opinion of the CCP as honestly it's irrelevant to the original discussion)

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03-25-2021 , 09:55 AM

#7646

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Also like...the word "authoritarian" is meaningless, as I have said many times. So if you want to have a reasonable discussion you are going to need to stop using it.

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03-25-2021 , 10:01 AM

#7647

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687

sorry are you asking if I am ok that prostitution being outlawed...or what exactly are you asking?

It was more rhetorical than anything.

Just a little surprising that someone who is so anti-police now seems to be open to the idea of the police interpretation of things?

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03-25-2021 , 10:02 AM

#7648

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687

That doesn't explain the ban on Wikipedia.

I don't think the US ever banned TikTok. I do know Trump tried/wanted to. And it would be wrong if we did.

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03-25-2021 , 10:03 AM

#7649

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Originally Posted by bsball8806

Birdman is the one who made this connection.

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03-25-2021 , 10:04 AM

#7650

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Originally Posted by eyebooger

It was more rhetorical than anything.

Just a little surprising that someone who is so anti-police now seems to be open to the idea of the police interpretation of things?

what are you talking about? You said someone was arrested for criticizing the government when he was in fact arrested for soliciting a prostitute.

All I did was correct your error. Like honestly wtf