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06-04-2016 , 08:17 PM
About 50 years ago! It's fine, Digster. I'm just razzin' you, bro.
06-04-2016 , 08:27 PM
C's don't have much point when you have s's
06-04-2016 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
I have to recalibrate my judgment of Domer after all the sense he's been making recently

lol
06-04-2016 , 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
Kioshk - why can't I be nationalistic, proud of a strong America, and be welcoming of foreign nationals escaping difficult and/or dangerous environments?

Wouldn't the latter be something to be proud about?
What it comes down to, is we are unable to support to many new people now. Because...

a)The World is overpopulated

b)Too many of those people already here are non-productive liberals who want themselves to be "taken care of" magically through government and then brag about their selfless nobility because they're also willing to let immigrants get taken care of through the power of magic too

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Instead of calling each other racist all the time we need to come up with serious solutions to reducing out population and preparing for the growing lack of importance of human manual labor. The Conservatives are ignoring this problem completely, and the Liberals just want to call everyone racist who is trying to protect their self interests during an obvious 1st World downfall
06-04-2016 , 09:23 PM
Currently our social system encourages people with the most to reproduce the least and people with the least to reproduce the most.

This is blatantly backwards and reversing this tendency would be the best way to combat "privilege" through being born with wealth. Wealthy people leave everything to 1-2 decedents whereas the poorest people leave their nothing to 10. How the **** does that make any sense.

A system where the middle class think they have to save 100k per child to send them to brainwashing school and where dirt poor people GET free money from the government & sex partners for having children is not wise. But a system that makes sense would of course be sexist and racist.

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In conjunction with that we have to do something about the lack of importance of human labor now. Even if there are less humans too many things can be accomplished by robots nowadays. I know liberals don't understand economics but this is the reason why no one can find anything but a minimum wage jobs. Employers have not become "more greedy" they just have more bargaining power (more options) and less of a need. Pushing the minimum wage up does not work it just encourages business to cut and cut more as the tech gets better and better.

This is very economically liberal of me, but it might just be that we literally need to start giving everyone a base of "free money" where they might even be able to live comfortably without a job at all. We would still need to strike a balance between that so it is not so comfortable that the best and brightest or people who just want to be productive still have an incentive to work and produce. Not an easy thing to pull off. But we don't have the population requirements to even try that. Too much dead weight and leeches in the US. We need to fix overpopulation first, and sorry the answer isn't letting in MORE people. There is no overnight fix to this.


I expect eventually the 1st world model will become unsustainable in 150-200 years, once the groceries stop getting food and water...most people in the first world will die
06-04-2016 , 09:40 PM
If the United States had infinite resources, we could drop manna from heaven and make every living human's life complete bliss. Unfortunately, this is not a reality. We need to look out for Americans first and foremost. After that, we can get a little fancy maybe.
06-04-2016 , 09:54 PM
Similarly, the UK needs to start looking out for the UK and give the EU the heave-ho.
06-04-2016 , 09:57 PM
PS's views sound no different than the guy who stands on the street corner covered in tin foil.
06-04-2016 , 10:34 PM
He does like to say a lot of words.
06-04-2016 , 10:39 PM
What are words for, when no one listens anymore?

06-04-2016 , 10:42 PM
Ali was a great man despite being a Muslim
06-04-2016 , 10:47 PM
Ali was first and foremost a fierce proud American from Louisville, Kentucky. An American with an indomitable spirit, as all the great Americans are.
06-04-2016 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by pwnsall
Ali was a great man despite being a Muslim
06-04-2016 , 11:14 PM
Why does pwns never get banned for his overt bigotry?
06-04-2016 , 11:19 PM
did you try reporting his post? it might make you feel better
06-04-2016 , 11:23 PM
I just want to learn.
06-04-2016 , 11:24 PM
Louisville represent!
06-04-2016 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by kioshk
Ali was first and foremost a fierce proud American from Louisville, Kentucky. An American with an indomitable spirit, as all the great Americans are.
That's true. Standing up to the government when you think they're overstepping their bounds is the embodiment of a true American.
06-04-2016 , 11:35 PM
Like we stood up to the British in revolutionary times, yes. We are a proud and independent people. Hence our greatness.
06-04-2016 , 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
I expect eventually the 1st world model will become unsustainable in 150-200 years, once the groceries stop getting food and water...most people in the first world will die
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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
What it comes down to, is we are unable to support to many new people now. Because...

a)The World is overpopulated

b)Too many of those people already here are non-productive liberals who want themselves to be "taken care of" magically through government and then brag about their selfless nobility because they're also willing to let immigrants get taken care of through the power of magic too

-----

Instead of calling each other racist all the time we need to come up with serious solutions to reducing out population and preparing for the growing lack of importance of human manual labor. The Conservatives are ignoring this problem completely, and the Liberals just want to call everyone racist who is trying to protect their self interests during an obvious 1st World downfall
you have basic facts wrong here. the world is not overpopulated relative to food or other resources; humanity currently produces almost 3,000 calories of food per person per day, and the amount of calories of food we are producing is increasing per capita. which means that the rate of food production is faster than the rate of population growth, with no end in sight for increased food production (whereas population growth is leveling off).



the problem is not of resources, but of poverty and political instability. too much of the world is poor and lives in non-democratic areas. but that'll be mostly fixed over the next 20-30 years as sub-saharan africa gets more investments, the countries drift towards democracy, and global poverty becomes largely eradicated:



you can see that the decline has already been precipitous, largely due to the abandonment of collectivization and the move towards free market economics in southeast asia.

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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
This is very economically liberal of me, but it might just be that we literally need to start giving everyone a base of "free money" where they might even be able to live comfortably without a job at all. We would still need to strike a balance between that so it is not so comfortable that the best and brightest or people who just want to be productive still have an incentive to work and produce. Not an easy thing to pull off. But we don't have the population requirements to even try that. Too much dead weight and leeches in the US. We need to fix overpopulation first, and sorry the answer isn't letting in MORE people. There is no overnight fix to this.
population size has nothing to do with this; its all relative. the social safety net right now is built upon an assessment of whether one needs the money: old, handicapped, unemployed, etc.

a basic income eliminates that test, and instead institutes an economic system we know is already a huge failure: collectivization.

universal income is a bad solution to a problem that does not exist.

also, you seem to think that immigration is a net negative on economic growth. it is a net positive. look to a country like japan which has a declining population and practically 0 immigration. it's a slow motion economic disaster.

just basic facts wrong in both of these posts.
06-04-2016 , 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by kioshk
Ali was first and foremost a fierce proud American from Louisville, Kentucky. A draft dodger with an indomitable spirit, as all the great Americans are.
06-04-2016 , 11:58 PM
Another conservative weighs in on the judge topic, finds Trump to be racist:



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This interview with Trump after 2012 is amazing, especially the final sentence.

Read it in the context of Trump cultists telling us how "authentic" he is, and he isn't afraid to "speak his mind":



He is literally a demagogue that tells any group what they want to hear, and if you call him on his contradictions (which happen all the time), he calls you a liar.

And the thoughtless cult members just nod their heads and go along with it.
06-04-2016 , 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by pwnsall
Louisville represent!
It's one of my favorite Kentucky cities. Paducah is pretty sweet too
06-05-2016 , 12:37 AM
we know trump is lying all the time. that's why we're not worried that he's "literally hitler" or that he's gonna round anybody up or build a wall or ban abortion or gives japan nukes. he doesn't have real policies. the anti-trump worry warts are as hilarious as the pro-trump obsessives
06-05-2016 , 12:40 AM
when people say "can you BELIEVE trump SAID THAT ABOUT GROUP XYZ????"

yes, i can believe it. he said that to get votes

      
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