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12-04-2019 , 05:28 PM

#20826

Crossnerd

quite smart as well

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 40,481

Bless your heart

12-04-2019 , 06:26 PM

#20827

metsandfinsfan

banned

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 159,821

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crossnerd

Bless your heart

I'm not agreeing that it should be done

12-04-2019 , 08:13 PM

#20828

iamnotawerewolf

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 31,482

Mets, let me help you out:

It's legal to hold it until shortly after someone calls foul for it being held.

12-04-2019 , 08:25 PM

#20829

metsandfinsfan

banned

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 159,821

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf

Mets, let me help you out:

It's legal to hold it until shortly after someone calls foul for it being held.

That might be accurate

12-04-2019 , 08:35 PM

#20830

metsandfinsfan

banned

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Jerry nadler 1998

Quote:

Anti-impeachment rally as Judiciary member, December 17, 1998: "The impeachment of a president is an undoing of a national election. And one of the reasons we all feel so angry about what they are doing, is that they are ripping asunder our votes. They are telling us that our votes don't count and that the election must be set aside... Impeaching a president when you have not got a broad consensus of the American public, a broad agreement of almost everybody, that this fellow has got to go because he's a clear and present danger to our liberty and to our Constitution. Without that, you cannot impeach a president, because to do so is to call into question the legitimacy of all our political institutions and to make this the most divisive thing in American public life since the war in Vietnam."

Jerry nadler 2019

Quote:

Personally, I think the president ought to be impeached. Impeachment is imperative, not because he's going to be removed from office—the Senate won't do that—but because we have to vindicate the Constitution."

Yes the Republicans are complete hypocrites too

But today changed no minds. We had law professors debating articles of impeachment before they've been served

I'm glad the Dems are rushing this. I'm ready for this to be done.

Is anybody curious enough to think something special will happen at these hearings?

12-04-2019 , 09:00 PM

#20831

eyebooger

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 59,239

Quote:

Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

Care to make it interesting?

If you want.

Winner picks loser's avatar from April 1 to November 2 (the day before the election). Winner may change the avatar once in that time frame.

I win if:
- An impeachment vote is made by the full House and 20 or fewer Democrats vote against impeachment.

You win if:
- An impeachment vote is made by the full House and more than 20 Democrats vote against impeachment.
- No impeachment vote happens by March 31.

No bet if:
- Trump resigns, dies, or is otherwise removed from office prior to an impeachment vote.

12-04-2019 , 09:08 PM

#20832

metsandfinsfan

banned

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No I'll pass

This may be strict party on one of the counts

12-04-2019 , 09:09 PM

#20833

metsandfinsfan

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Having 3 law professors for the Dems and only 1 for the repubs will not help public opinion on impeachment

12-04-2019 , 10:37 PM

#20834

Crossnerd

quite smart as well

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 40,481

I didn’t know federal law was subjective. Weird!

12-04-2019 , 11:50 PM

#20835

metsandfinsfan

banned

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 159,821

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crossnerd

I didn’t know federal law was subjective. Weird!

Can you cite the law?

12-05-2019 , 12:05 AM

#20836

Crossnerd

quite smart as well

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 40,481

Pretty sure all of them are meant to be interpreted and enforced without political bias, but hey, what do I know?!

12-05-2019 , 02:15 AM

#20837

soah

Unexpected

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 61,667

2 U.S. Code § 684 - Proposed deferrals of budget authority

Quote:

(a)Transmittal of special message
Whenever the President, the Director of the Office of Management and Budget, the head of any department or agency of the United States, or any officer or employee of the United States proposes to defer any budget authority provided for a specific purpose or project, the President shall transmit to the House of Representatives and the Senate a special message specifying—
(1)the amount of the budget authority proposed to be deferred;
(2)any account, department, or establishment of the Government to which such budget authority is available for obligation, and the specific projects or governmental functions involved;
(3)the period of time during which the budget authority is proposed to be deferred;
(4)the reasons for the proposed deferral, including any legal authority invoked to justify the proposed deferral;
(5)to the maximum extent practicable, the estimated fiscal, economic, and budgetary effect of the proposed deferral; and
(6)all facts, circumstances, and considerations relating to or bearing upon the proposed deferral and the decision to effect the proposed deferral, including an analysis of such facts, circumstances, and considerations in terms of their application to any legal authority, including specific elements of legal authority, invoked to justify such proposed deferral, and to the maximum extent practicable, the estimated effect of the proposed deferral upon the objects, purposes, and programs for which the budget authority is provided.
A special message may include one or more proposed deferrals of budget authority. A deferral may not be proposed for any period of time extending beyond the end of the fiscal year in which the special message proposing the deferral is transmitted to the House and the Senate.

(b)Consistency with legislative policy
Deferrals shall be permissible only—
(1)to provide for contingencies;
(2)to achieve savings made possible by or through changes in requirements or greater efficiency of operations; or
(3)as specifically provided by law.
No officer or employee of the United States may defer any budget authority for any other purpose.

(c)Exception
The provisions of this section do not apply to any budget authority proposed to be rescinded or that is to be reserved as set forth in a special message required to be transmitted under section 683 of this title.

2 U.S. Code § 682 - Definitions

Quote:

For purposes of sections 682 to 688 of this title—
(1)“deferral of budget authority” includes—
(A)withholding or delaying the obligation or expenditure of budget authority (whether by establishing reserves or otherwise) provided for projects or activities; or
(B)any other type of Executive action or inaction which effectively precludes the obligation or expenditure of budget authority, including authority to obligate by contract in advance of appropriations as specifically authorized by law;

...

(emphasis mine)

12-05-2019 , 02:53 AM

#20838

Birdman10687

Not a Troll IRL

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 39,990

Imagine if people were this jazzed about rooting out corruption when Citi bank picked Obama’s cabinet for him or when he had Health Insurance companies write the affordable care act for him.

12-05-2019 , 07:17 AM

#20839

metsandfinsfan

banned

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 159,821

Quote:

Originally Posted by Birdman10687

Imagine if people were this jazzed about rooting out corruption when Citi bank picked Obama’s cabinet for him or when he had Health Insurance companies write the affordable care act for him.

12-05-2019 , 10:06 AM

#20840

Birdman10687

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Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 39,990

Or how about when Saudi Arabia was making donations to the Clinton Foundation while one of the largest arms deals in US history was happening between the US government and Saudi Arabia while Clinton was Secretary of State? Why not take a stand against corruption then???

12-05-2019 , 11:28 AM

#20841

metsandfinsfan

banned

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Birdman10687

Cause it's standard

12-05-2019 , 11:46 AM

#20842

metsandfinsfan

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They're all hypocrites

Of course bidens son got the job for access to the White House but who gives a **** the Republicans do the same ****

It's all bs

Why are lawyers debating what constitutes impeachment before articles of impeachment were even charged?

12-05-2019 , 12:05 PM

#20843

Birdman10687

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Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 39,990

That’s not what hypocrisy is. They would be hypocrites if they, themselves, were corrupt. It would probably be fair to call what they are doing a double standard. But it’s not different then how you act so, ironically, you are actually being hypocritical.

12-05-2019 , 12:19 PM

#20844

kokiri

ffermwr moch

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 52,228

Quote:

Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

Why are lawyers debating what constitutes impeachment before articles of impeachment were even charged?

You can set your clock by Mets finding yet another procedural outrage.

12-05-2019 , 12:46 PM

#20845

biggerboat

you're gonna need one

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 49,007

Quote:

Originally Posted by kokiri

You can set your clock by Mets finding yet another procedural outrage.

The one that gets me the most is how they are outraged the whistle blower and hunter biden won't testify when the men that could exonerate him (if he was innocent) - mulvaney, pompeo, and of course trump himself, refuse to testify.

12-05-2019 , 12:48 PM

#20846

biggerboat

you're gonna need one

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 49,007

Overheard a somewhat heated trump conversation at the gym. I couldn't get all of it, but the trump guy told the other guy he was a communist.

12-05-2019 , 01:29 PM

#20847

Birdman10687

Not a Troll IRL

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 39,990

Quote:

Originally Posted by biggerboat

the trump guy told the other guy he was a communist.

What a mean thing to say

12-05-2019 , 01:39 PM

#20848

filthyvermin

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 60,777

i might have told this story in here. but one veteran's day there was a very drunk ex marine at the poker table and he was talking about "****ing people in this country don't even care about our service, ****ing communist bastards!". and another guy at the table was trying to start **** and said something about my political views so i just said "im a communist bastard" and the marine was actually really cool about it

12-05-2019 , 01:48 PM

#20849

Birdman10687

Not a Troll IRL

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 39,990

Now, starving people does feel like something Trump should get impeached for

12-05-2019 , 01:50 PM

#20850

Birdman10687

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Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 39,990

“I’m poor and can’t afford food because I can’t find a job”

“No problem we have a social program that will help you out in a time of need. The only requirement is you have a job.”

“But that’s the whole reason I need food. Because I don’t have a job.”

“...”

America the beautiful

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