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08-20-2020 , 07:33 PM
wouldn't it be nice if when talking about presidential candidates, we didn't have to decide who was less creepy, less rapey, less racist, less senile, less corrupt, less evil?
08-20-2020 , 07:33 PM
I mean Biden raped someone, right? Tara Reede?
08-20-2020 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
Maybe it is because you WERE a child but you never WERE a teenaged girl. You say it was "wrong" of him but there is no energy behind it whatsoever.

You shrug it off.

So, ooc, where exactly DO you fall on transgender women in public bathrooms.
Live and let live.. Transgender people can do whatever they want. I think the only question is what to do about sports, but to me has no relevance in my life, so I never even weigh in on those type of debates. Hopefully they can all live happy lives. One of my old best friends married a transgender person. They seem to have a happy life

I've never been a teenage girl, but I have been sexually assaulted, groped and worse.
08-20-2020 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
Maybe it is because you WERE a child but you never WERE a teenaged girl. You say it was "wrong" of him but there is no energy behind it whatsoever.

You shrug it off.

So, ooc, where exactly DO you fall on transgender women in public bathrooms.
Are you against transgender women in bathrooms then?
08-20-2020 , 07:40 PM
No, for several reasons:

1) I don't stand naked in the middle of public restrooms. We have these things called stalls.

2) If you consider yourself a woman, I'm willing to take you at your word unless you try to peep at me changing.

3) If you do try to peep at me against my will, I'm going to raise holy heck whether you claim you are a man OR a woman.
08-20-2020 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
3) If you do try to peep at me against my will, I'm going to raise holy heck whether you are a man OR a woman.
fyp
08-20-2020 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
I mean Biden raped someone, right? Tara Reede?
i mean i believe so, but that's not enough to condemn someone for it. tara reede accused him of it. i believe her.

but i am skeptical of assange's accuser, so it's obviously not fair to pick and choose condemnation when we don't have evidence.
08-20-2020 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
i mean i believe so, but that's not enough to condemn someone for it. tara reede accused him of it. i believe her.

but i am skeptical of assange's accuser, so it's obviously not fair to pick and choose condemnation when we don't have evidence.
yeah but didn't assange's accuser retract her claim?
08-20-2020 , 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by pwnsall
Is the general feel walking in on underage girls undressing is much worse morally than saying something lewd on a hot mic?
trump didn't just say something lewd though. he bragged about committing sexual assault. that's way beyond just saying something lewd
08-20-2020 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
No, for several reasons:

1) I don't stand naked in the middle of public restrooms. We have these things called stalls.

2) If you consider yourself a woman, I'm willing to take you at your word unless you try to peep at me changing.

3) If you do try to peep at me against my will, I'm going to raise holy heck whether you claim you are a man OR a woman.
Euros on reddit love to mock USA stalls with the huge gaps.
08-20-2020 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
trump didn't just say something lewd though. he bragged about committing sexual assault. that's way beyond just saying something lewd
What are some "just saying something lewd" things that are still morally wrong, IYO?
08-20-2020 , 07:55 PM
With numbers 1 and 3 seems like you should be fine with men using the women's restroom, anyway.
08-20-2020 , 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by pwnsall
What are some "just saying something lewd" things that are still morally wrong, IYO?
Well, pretty much any lewd remark aimed at someone who has not indicated that they would welcome same is morally questionable at best.

Anything that treats other beings as nothing more than sexual objects.

Anything that comes from a person in a position of power to a person in a position of less power is probably immoral.

So how is your bingo card looking pwns?
08-20-2020 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Jsmith27
Because Trump ran in opposition with Clinton, someone who had very close ties to Epstein, who he beat out, and then Epstein got arrested.



Bragging about something and making inappropriate comments/doing some things wrong, does not mean you are a rapist or a child rapist. It also does not mean that you can't later in life decide that fighting human trafficking is very important.
What exactly has Trump done to fight human trafficking. Feel free to be specific
08-20-2020 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by pwnsall
With numbers 1 and 3 seems like you should be fine with men using the women's restroom, anyway.
Actually I think restrooms that are segregated by gender are anachronistic. We should build bigger restrooms with tight fitting stall doors, make them all coed, and turn the men's restrooms into private sanctuaries for nursing moms.
08-20-2020 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
Bragging about having no respect for women and barging in on naked teenagers changing when you are in a position of power over them is not "doing some things wrong."

It is treating Actual Human Beings like objects beneath contempt or any consideration whatsoever.

In short, ok, maybe Trump isn't a child rapist. But if the only reason you're not a child rapist is that you don't happen to find children attractive, you do NOT get to claim moral high ground.

Because in literally every other respect Trump demonstrates that he IS a rapist. So he prefers to rape adult women. GREAT. Let's make that guy president.
Ftfy
08-20-2020 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jsmith27
I don't believe he raped a woman, or I wouldn't have voted him. I obviously have seen the testimonials that he has, and reasons he hasn't and I came to my own conclusion based on that evidence. I respect you and that you disagree with me is understandable. I just don't believe it is right.
So, women who claim that Trump raped them = bitches be lying. Women who say Trump was never at Epstein island = bastions of truth.

That about right?
08-20-2020 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
LOL did VMF seriously just "whatabout Bill Clinton" to ****ing Birdman?
I thought the same thing. Gee, I wonder if Birdman will agree that Bill Clinton is a disgusting human... who knows!
08-20-2020 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
What exactly has Trump done to fight human trafficking. Feel free to be specific
at night he puts on a mask and a cape and flies around saving children from pedophiles
08-20-2020 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
Well, pretty much any lewd remark aimed at someone who has not indicated that they would welcome same is morally questionable at best.

Anything that treats other beings as nothing more than sexual objects.

Anything that comes from a person in a position of power to a person in a position of less power is probably immoral.

So how is your bingo card looking pwns?
I don't know what the bingo thing means.

I was asking filthy. Was thinking more specific things.

In theory if I want to say a bunch of lewd things in the privacy of my home is that ok? What about amongst a few people at home?

I agree speech can be bad but I mostly limit it to verbal abuse type speech which would have to be directed at someone in their presence. Maybe trash taking people behind their backs to some degree.
08-20-2020 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jsmith27
That isn't my position and I would appreciate you trying to act civil towards me.



My position is people have killed for much less power than the presidency and that making up fake accusations is one of many things evil people will do to try to hold onto the power they have.
All those evil women making up lies about Trump, like his ex wife, who wanted to usurp his presidential power *checks notes* 25 years before he became president.

****ing Ivana needs to get paid on the psychic friends network, I tell ya what
08-20-2020 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
Actually I think restrooms that are segregated by gender are anachronistic. We should build bigger restrooms with tight fitting stall doors, make them all coed, and turn the men's restrooms into private sanctuaries for nursing moms.
I think this is fine but the urinal is fairly practical. Hopefully we don't lose it.

Only one of these I've ever used was in Vegas, it was quite nice but a little confusing at first.

Even in current bathrooms seems like you should be ok with men given what you said, though. So it's not really an actually.
08-20-2020 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jsmith27
I guess it depends on your definition of sexual predator. I haven't seen good evidence that suggest Trump has raped of physically sexually assaulted someone. If you take words or walking into a room as sexual predatatory, than sure you could put it like that. That I support the guy who is less of a sexual predator and less of a racist. That is very applicable now vs Biden. A guy who there is plenty of video shots of him groping children. Groping young girls and saying racist things. While also supporting racist policies.
He publicly stated he will grab women by the pussy against their will because hes rich and famous and can.

Do your ears not work? We have audio and video of this.
08-20-2020 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Ftfy


That said, it doesn't have to be teenagers.

Adult women ALSO have the right to bodily integrity, dignity, and privacy.
08-20-2020 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
yeah but didn't assange's accuser retract her claim?
idk, did she? but for the point i'm making, it doesn't matter that much because i was still skeptical before she retracted... if she did retract.

people do make false claims. it happens. idk the details of the tara reade situation, and i'm biased because i hate biden. i'd tend to believe anything bad anyone said of him.

there is plenty to condemn biden that we know for sure happened. it's public record. the man is a monster.

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Originally Posted by pwnsall
What are some "just saying something lewd" things that are still morally wrong, IYO?
personally, i don't think it's morally wrong to say lewd things when you think are speaking privately to someone who enjoys it. my problem is not with trump's lewdness, but his assault. it's completely different.

if you're speaking lewdly to offend someone, that is wrong. obviously.

      
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