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04-16-2010 , 03:46 PM
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metsandfinsfan 616
TimeLady 440
Forsythio 368
kwami42 245
derwipok 222
Boo Radley 194
Zurvan 193
Birdman10687 157
dnkyhunter31 156
XXsooted 154
Maruchan 153
darthrob64 153
wahoopride 148
AriesRam 147
globetrotter 143
shortline99 138
Thingyman 129
OnThInIcE911 121
WhiteGoose 121
kokiri 119
PlzBeALevel 108
chrisrjdk 97
Aaronk56's Son 96
Chips Ahoy 93
Systolic 88
Sun Tzu 81
jonnyd 80
IFlatTheNuts 78
aaronk56 78
kkcountry 70
bsball8806 68
chuckleslovakian 67
RollWave 65
ScottHoward v10 59
Tao1 59
Tom Martell 55
Luckbox Inc 53
Thread Cat, imo 51
Jebron Lames 48
well named 36
housenuts 33
lonely_but_rich 30
J.D. 29
dmk 28
essedarius 28
WinEvryRacex 27
sixfour 26
Willd 25
Caedus 13
UAW710 13
reno expat 12
xxaceshigh77xx 11
atakdog 8
FCBLComish 4
StoneColdVilla 2
ewalsh420 2
bobman0330 2
ForestFairy 2
Felix the Cat 2
RoundTower 1
Vehement 1
jocuri barbie 1
LuckayLuck 1
HairyMollusk 1

i'm gonna be rereading from the bottom of this table up
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04-16-2010 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
I could rest you hear mets....
I know I am giving kokiri evidence to defend bird, but bird could have killed mets here. Kepp in mind though, that bird did take a legit shot at mets near eod.
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04-16-2010 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by AriesRam
I know I am giving kokiri evidence to defend bird, but bird could have killed mets here. Kepp in mind though, that bird did take a legit shot at mets near eod.
i still think that if birdman is a wolf, he can kill a strong (presumed) villager and, whilst it will bring him under some suspicion, he has enough reason to do so that he's not gonna get instalynched for it.

i think he's much more likely to pull the trigger as a wolf than as a villager, so it's like a bayesian villager tell.
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04-16-2010 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by kokiri
i think he's much more likely to pull the trigger as a wolf than as a villager, so it's like a bayesian villager tell.
I disagree. He's killed a wolf already that day, if he's a villager - especially considering his high opinion of himself - I think he's more likely to pull the trigger and hope he's right, thinking he gets a free pass if he's wrong.

Whereas a wolf would be concerned about how he looks killing someone most people thought was a villager, when his wolf kill would eventually be revealed as someone who might have been more valuable to the wolves dead than alive
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04-16-2010 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by kkcountry
i will unoffically proxy my vote to boo howard today
sweet!!
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04-16-2010 , 03:59 PM
oh wait, what does 'unofficially' mean?
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04-16-2010 , 03:59 PM
WHich is all a long way of saying that I don't think his restraint last night is really a point towards wolf or villager
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04-16-2010 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by kokiri
i still think that if birdman is a wolf, he can kill a strong (presumed) villager and, whilst it will bring him under some suspicion, he has enough reason to do so that he's not gonna get instalynched for it.

i think he's much more likely to pull the trigger as a wolf than as a villager, so it's like a bayesian villager tell.
But he DID pull the trigger on mets. And he did kill someone (dnky) who was almost generally considered village. And people didnt calm down until after he killed chris.
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04-16-2010 , 04:05 PM
JD's reads:
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Originally Posted by J.D.
BTW, quick thoughts. Two wolves would spam the endurance thread together in order to gain immunity?
who was spamming the endurance thread? Dustin (wolf), TL (vila?), AKs(V), who else?

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Originally Posted by J.D.
trying to catch up between conference calls today. I am looking for wolves, but not finding anything I like.

I dont like the Globetrotter votes, yes he is way more UTR than usual , but his first posts says he will be AFK, then comes back and tries to catch up, pretty unreasonable to expect anyone to read all the D1 posts and contribute at the same time.

For that reason, wolf points to Globe wagonners.

Kwami is def a villager, I have read or played most of his recent games, especially the early days, and this is dead on what I have seen of his villa game.
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To go a bit off the board:

lonely_but_rich is the wolfiest UTR so far IMO Has three posts this game, saying basically nothing, but he was def around posting in another game for a good stretch of time yesterday afternoon.
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Originally Posted by J.D.
Esse I guarantee you have a lolfail in your wolf list. i also understand I havent done much to make you think otherwise.
funny way of claiming village

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Originally Posted by J.D.
wer not even close to caught up, but seems to be the best vote to me.

Just to get my 2 cents in, I think the Mets/ OTI?? thing about AIM is massively angle-shooty. Its talking about the game outside of thread.

Public kill FWIW or I start voting B voters.
am i right that B wins, goes for public kill and is WER, wolf, gets lynched? If so, this gives JD V-points

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Originally Posted by J.D.
btw, plzbealevel pretty much has to be villa IMO, went back and re-read the chris suicide timeframe and plz is wayyyy to quick on the timestamps to make it seem like it was pre-planned.

it was like 5 minutes from chris playing his game/dying and plz posting.
there's another quote early i missed that says plzbalevel=Villa, iirc
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04-16-2010 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Boo Radley
oh wait, what does 'unofficially' mean?
pretty sure i can't officially do it, with you being a ghost and all

but tell me who to vote for and i'll do it bro
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04-16-2010 , 04:08 PM
what was plzbealevel?
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04-16-2010 , 04:08 PM
which is a long way of not giving a read on jd
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04-16-2010 , 04:10 PM
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who was spamming the endurance thread? Dustin (wolf), TL (vila?), AKs(V), who else?
Chris & Dustin were working together, which prompted TL & AK to come out
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04-16-2010 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by kokiri
what was plzbealevel?
Villager with a 1 time kill
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04-16-2010 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by chuckleslovakian
Woohsah is subbing in for Kwami
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Originally Posted by Forsythio
chips ahoy

did he die or get subbed out or something? what ever happened to him?
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Originally Posted by Maruchan
the subkiller killed him

even after you and me told everyone not to
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Originally Posted by Forsythio
also, to gtpitch:

the good sub outer is now dead, meaning that the evils forced kwami to sub out.

(so don't kill him)
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Originally Posted by Forsythio
damn it

oh yeah didn't like ewalsh sub in for him and he ended up being vanilla?
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Originally Posted by Maruchan
forsy who do you want to lynch
If Forsythio is a wolf, this exchange looks bad for Maruchan.

Also, if Forsythio is a wolf; he would definitely want to post that gtpitch shouldn't kill Woohsah because he knows Woohsah is a wolf.

These posts were all in order with no intervening posts as well. This looks shady to me.
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04-16-2010 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Zurvan
Chris & Dustin were working together, which prompted TL & AK to come out
so it was w/w spamming, then TL/AKs took over. I wonder what the timing of the JD post was? Because I think it's obviously villagery of him if two wolves are spamming...
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04-16-2010 , 04:17 PM
JD's post:04-12-2010, 06:41 AM

at that point it looks like Duston is spamming (and JD is in the thread so knows) with OTI (who was V?)

it's not conclusive, but i guess dustin was the heaviest poster, so it's somewhat villey
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04-16-2010 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by kokiri
JD's post:04-12-2010, 06:41 AM

at that point it looks like Duston is spamming (and JD is in the thread so knows) with OTI (who was V?)

it's not conclusive, but i guess dustin was the heaviest poster, so it's somewhat villey

Yes OTI was villa.
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04-16-2010 , 04:25 PM
Tao is pretty content-lite. I would definitely be prepared to see him up against the wall.

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Originally Posted by Tao1
Birdman, has posts with content, appears to put in the effort and voted for whitegoose yesterday. I like voting him least so far.

Reno>Chris>>>>Birdman
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Originally Posted by Tao1
Contestant B
The wolves presumably can co-ordinate their voting here, and so a B-vote is a bayesian wolftell. Fortunately, Draft-A is obviously the best here, so anyone not voting it is insta-suspicious imo, today

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Voting esse while he is adding to the thread is a bad decision. If he is a wolf, itll show. Every time Ive seen him play as a wolf, you can tell by the way his posts die out rather than gain meaning/comprehension/analysis in time.
He didnt fix this the last two times I played with him as wolf either, even with me pointing out this very thing. On the other hand, these were a while back.
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Originally Posted by Tao1
Upon a reread, Aries is good sense making usual aries. Villager.
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Originally Posted by Tao1
Of the people ive read, you are the least like yourself. Therefore you get my vote, despite that defense.

OTI
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Originally Posted by Tao1
Right, its pretty likely that some of globe/felix/systolic/tom are villagers, they are much easier targets and much more likely to get lynched. As a wolf, I dont think this would make sense to me.

As for your last bit, have at it, im off to bed.
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04-16-2010 , 04:27 PM
Vote A
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04-16-2010 , 04:33 PM
vote B
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04-16-2010 , 04:36 PM
btw,i subbed out, in order:
kkcountry
chipsahoy
mets (mets was last night)
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04-16-2010 , 04:36 PM
B was most likely created by a villager

"esses super accurate lists of doom"

so we should be voting B
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04-16-2010 , 04:37 PM
vote b
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04-16-2010 , 04:43 PM
like i said a while back, if we look closely at gooses posts, i think we can get good info. pay attention to the more definitive statements that you would think he would point back to to show how smart he was. these posts would be wolves that he 'finds' out of nowhere, and villagers that he is very vocal about.

do not consider any posts where he only casually hints that somebody is village or wolf.
globetrotter pointed out that goose called tom a wolf after only one post. i think globetrotter deserves some village points for that. globe also deserves a couple village points for his view on goose when i asked him to state his case. he went through a lot of work to lay it out. linked posts, decent paragraphs, etc.
when i asked wahoo to do the same, he said 'well, pretty much what globe said' and that was about it. kinda weak.
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