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08-05-2008 , 05:24 PM
vaya seems like it has a better chance than Zeturd, although id go anyone that is in that super high quality digital pic i took and posted a few minutes ago, since they were all on a pirate ship for Christs sake
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08-05-2008 , 05:25 PM
vaya

for clarity
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08-05-2008 , 05:29 PM
ok ive been busy with poker and usg most of the day. ill probably just try to be around for night and make a feel decision then.
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08-05-2008 , 05:33 PM
all, i probably will not be able to get past fnord not reading my posts even though he claims to be intent on discovering my role.
at this point, and i realize its only day 2, i dont see any chance that i will be getting lynched this game. the wolves will have to kill me or make something up to try and get me lynched. this is good because if they have to kill me, they waste a shot at a seer, and its also good because if they go crazy and try to lynch me, they will expose themselves.
fnord is claiming that he is so puzzled and scared that i may be a wolf that he isnt even reading my posts?

id like to propose a fnord/vaya/reno/nich quadruple wagon for today.
i dont think we can miss a wolf here regardless.

note to kyro re his asswipe comment: if you want to make an omelette, you gotta break some eggs.
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08-05-2008 , 05:38 PM
it is important to note that while i myself do not suspect scott this game, he is never beyond suspicion.
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08-05-2008 , 05:38 PM
This is wolf scott I think.

I don't mind you lynching me if scott is involved in it and you lynch him tomorrow when you see I am village.

Come on scott, lets go!
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08-05-2008 , 05:43 PM
So why I think this is wolf scott: The types of posts he is making and 'traps' he is setting appear to be more aimed at just stirring up things up vice finding wolves. Also, it seems like he is walking a little gingerly in some spots. It is very hard to describe the reasons his posting patterns make me think he is a wolf, but they are consistent with my impression of wolf scott from past games. When I am dead you can be certain of my read.
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08-05-2008 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by fnord_too
So why I think this is wolf scott: The types of posts he is making and 'traps' he is setting appear to be more aimed at just stirring up things up vice finding wolves. Also, it seems like he is walking a little gingerly in some spots. It is very hard to describe the reasons his posting patterns make me think he is a wolf, but they are consistent with my impression of wolf scott from past games. When I am dead you can be certain of my read.
im not trying to find wolves? im trying to find wolves more than anybody. walking gingerly? i was extremely vocal yesterday about getting well named (villager) lynched. youre saying that im a wolf walking gingerly? for real? kyro said im an asswipe for being the only vocal person pushing for wellnamed. odd you seem to think im walking gingerly. "its very hard to describe the reasons"? yeah, its very hard to describe the reasons because there arent any. youre flailing. point out some flaws in my logic or thought pattern. point out some contradictions. make a case. ive already made a case against you. youre putting insinuations out there hoping somebody bites so that i can be out of your hair. im putting out facts. if im wrong, im wrong, but at least i have my reasons to point to. if we all did this, ww would be much easier.
does anybody else see this?
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08-05-2008 , 06:10 PM
Scott,

I have played this game before where I am village and you are a wolf. I am happy to play it now early, because then people will know my true role. By all means, vote for me. Get a wagon on me.

One example of what I am talking about: You post that long bandwagon analysis (which a lot of people, like me, don't care about early) with your typical lack of formatting. Then you put your little 'trap' in the middle of it. But you are surely smart enough to know that people reading up are less likely to read through that long useless post thoroughly, but would certainly notice anyone saying that your were clear and jump on it. That looks very much just to be designed to get a random person making a stupid post and getting jumped on by another random person. That is, it sure as hell looks to me to be just there to incite noise.

Also, I said "gingerly IN SOME SPOTS." I was trying pretty hard to get you to engage me yesterday, but you wouldn't until I came out practically slapped you in the face.

So again, start my wagon scott, and play the little psychological games you excel at. I am anxious for my role to be confirmed.
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08-05-2008 , 06:19 PM
I'm somewhat sad that something isn't happening.
I think I'll refer to this post later
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08-05-2008 , 06:21 PM
DustinG,

Should we eat cake tomorrow?
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08-05-2008 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by fnord_too
Scott,

I have played this game before where I am village and you are a wolf. I am happy to play it now early, because then people will know my true role. By all means, vote for me. Get a wagon on me.

One example of what I am talking about: You post that long bandwagon analysis (which a lot of people, like me, don't care about early) with your typical lack of formatting. Then you put your little 'trap' in the middle of it. But you are surely smart enough to know that people reading up are less likely to read through that long useless post thoroughly, but would certainly notice anyone saying that your were clear and jump on it. That looks very much just to be designed to get a random person making a stupid post and getting jumped on by another random person. That is, it sure as hell looks to me to be just there to incite noise.

Also, I said "gingerly IN SOME SPOTS." I was trying pretty hard to get you to engage me yesterday, but you wouldn't until I came out practically slapped you in the face.

So again, start my wagon scott, and play the little psychological games you excel at. I am anxious for my role to be confirmed.
i didnt put that test in there to trick people into making odd posts, i put it in there to actually see if anybody was reading my posts. those posts are long and time consuming when being constructed. it takes a lot of effort. i wanted to see if my effort was worthwhile. notice that i have defended switch in light of the added suspicion on him due to his post. i didnt sit idly by and let him get lynched. i dont know switches role, but i made it clear that i would not vote for him any time soon BECAUSE he made the post that let me know he was reading my stuff. perhaps im wrong on him, but im making it known how i feel. look at it this way, if switch and i were both wolves, i wouldnt defend him for falling for the "trap" as you call it (it wasnt a trap regardless), if i was a wolf and switch was a villager, i would not defend him, on the contrary, my "trap" would have worked and i would pressure him. lastly, if i was village, i would defend him because it showed he was reading the thread and my long boring post, which i wolf wouldnt necessarily read. which of those scenarios do you see being played out now?

fnord, please to be describing the spots where im "walking gingerly". then we can talk more. saying im walking gingerly in spots is much too vague to be considered a serious accusation.

as far as you "trying to engage me", you being the great scotthoward expert can surely tell that i dont "engage" with randoms. i engage with people who have done something odd or villagery. i tend to ignore people that dont trigger my interest. youll notice i dont put up lists of "lean village" or "lean wolf". its wolf or villager and thats it. thats because if somebody hasnt made me wonder about them, i dont. but are you saying that your goal yesterday was to try and get me to call you a wolf? and im supposed to do that because you were fixated on saying you couldnt figure me out?
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08-05-2008 , 06:40 PM


(Note: I don't know the roles.)
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08-05-2008 , 06:47 PM
I violated at least a couple of scott howard rules to see how you would react. You didn't. I found that odd. If you had been reading my posts thoroughly, I would think you would have picked up on why I really want to at least get a some line on you early. And yes, I may be full of hubris, but I think you do follow certain patterns as a wolf that I have spotted over several games.
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08-05-2008 , 06:48 PM
scott,

See? I'm not the only person who thinks you set traps for other players.
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08-05-2008 , 06:50 PM
And wow this is DADV if I ever saw it.
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08-05-2008 , 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DustinG
not sure whats going on here nich

but why did zeturd wait until the last minute?

why zeturd?
I wanted to get Vaya lynched over WN. I made a post around 9:50 comparing a post Vaya made in this game with a post he made as a wolf in the Inquisition game (the "read" post), that I hoped would give the Vaya wagon some traction. I only changed when it was absolutely clear that it'd be either me or WN. And uh, that's not sniping under any reasonable definition of the term, so I'm not sure what the hell Vaya is on about.
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08-05-2008 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by fnord_too
I am anxious for my role to be confirmed.
and so, youre claiming village and you want to be dead just to prove it?
fnord, if i pushed to get you lynched and you turn up village, only wolves will be trying to get me lynched the next day. this would be fine with me.
you asked for it, you got it

lets rock and roll
fnord

fnord, please to be stating your case against me without using vague and illogical suspicions. i want everybody to have something to work with if i happen to get lynched instead of you.

everybody else, vote fnord.
do it now
gogogogogo
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08-05-2008 , 06:58 PM
luckay
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08-05-2008 , 07:00 PM
actually, dont vote for fnord because i said so. everybody should vote for whoever you want and give your reasoning. this is much more beneficial for the village.
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08-05-2008 , 07:02 PM
side note: seers should be peeking players that dont appear to be getting lynched any time soon.
players like mdd,chim,fcbl, epi, etc
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08-05-2008 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by VayaConDios
har har har

Seriously though, if I'm in ZT's position and a villager, I switch my vote onto wn a few minute before night (especially when there's been no change in voting for like 30 min.) in order to discourage anyone sniping me. If someone who is planning on sniping sees the votes are tied 6-6, they don't know whether or not ZT is going to be there at the very eod, and may take a shot at him. If they see ZT change his vote at 5 minutes till night, thus sending the vote to 7-6, I think they are less likely to snipe just to send the vote to a flip.

While we're on the subject of sniping, I'm not saying it's the be all end all of analysis. In the last USG long game, I was a villager and tied at eod with another villager. A wolf (IY, incidentally), and a villager (norseman) both sniped me at eod. Hence my fear of getting sniped.
OK, this is pretty ******ed. First, it assumes that my chances for survival are higher if I switch ~5 minutes before or whatever. It might be true, but it's not exactly like I would be wanting to get lynched as a wolf, so why wouldn't I apply the same logic if I was a wolf? In fact, wouldn't it be more likely that I switched to give my wolf buddies a chance to snipe WN themselves? Secondly, it's not only about survival. I obviously wanted to survive over both you and WN, but I wanted you to get lynched over WN, so I was trying to hold out as long as possible to get you lynched. If I move my vote from you over to WN it makes it a decision between me and WN since a vote is removed from you, thus making it harder for people to be voting you. Which I think they should have, and still should.
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08-05-2008 , 07:03 PM
3 HOURS UNTIL NIGHT

3 Ackbleh - Luckay
0 Bob - Swiitch
0 Chim - Nick
0 Chuckles - Reno
0 Clown - Ackbleh
0 Dustin - Reno
0 Epi -
0 FCBL - Nick
1 Fnord - Swiitch
0 IY -
0 Kyro - Ackbleh
1 Luckay - Nick
0 MDD - Vaya
3 Nick - Vaya
2 Reno -
0 ScottHoward - Fnord
0 Shorty - Ackbleh
2 Swiitch - Vaya
4 Vaya -
0 WDCBooks -
0 ZeTurd - Vaya
0 Zurvan -

NIGHT AT 10PM

10:00PM is good.
10:01PM is not.
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08-05-2008 , 07:04 PM
dont like ack as a wolf, dont like vaya as a wolf, so nich for now.
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08-05-2008 , 07:06 PM
reno expat
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