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10-17-2021 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Shad_
bsball as a wolf would explain the Bird shot. Bird and DZ were the only people seriously questioning him at the time that I remember.

Not sure what to make of bsball's persistent town read on DZ without rereading it, but it could be TMI. You and fanmail were both reading DZ w too so I think it wasn't just me and COVID did make his game look off to some extent.

Interesting
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10-17-2021 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
Also, is there anything we think we can glean from the fact that thr wolves don't actually have night chat and might have to post more stuff itt that they normally would?

I have to reread the mod posts because I didn’t even notice this
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10-17-2021 , 02:54 PM
how likely is it you think you were shot if Aaron wasn't blocked, Fanmail?
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10-17-2021 , 02:55 PM
I'm gonna try and reread most of the game but I'm really tired and at work all day, guess we'll see what I can get done
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10-17-2021 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by tessepia
how likely is it you think you were shot if Aaron wasn't blocked, Fanmail?

No idea, 50% me 50% anyone else
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10-17-2021 , 02:56 PM
God I just realized I'm not going to be NKd this game cause of the clears
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10-17-2021 , 02:57 PM
wolves do have night chat but not day chat is how I interpret it
Not sure what that means for their in thread communication
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10-17-2021 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by fanmail
wolves do have night chat but not day chat is how I interpret it
Not sure what that means for their in thread communication
eh

most wolf chats I'm in don't even post much during the day
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10-17-2021 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
Is this TMI?

"my reasons for switching to wiggles would look awful for me if irtm was a wolf"

Like, Wiggles is already dead when he posts this, and we know that Wiggles is a wolf. So how would it really look that bad if I'm also a wolf?
Yeah I've had a post field open for 10 minutes trying to reason it out but I'm trending towards TMI.

Maybe it's just filthy and bsball.
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10-17-2021 , 03:01 PM
I'm not gonna be around for most of today but should be able to contribute later and tomorrow AM

going IRTM before filthy might be better actually now that I remember filthy voted KW d1
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10-17-2021 , 03:02 PM
oh anyone in (me, shad, irtm, filthy, bsball) only has to find 1 town in there for a game winning PoE

I thought this game was going to be hard lmao
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10-17-2021 , 03:03 PM
I mean a villager can see that they voted a wolf over an unknown at the last minute and go whew I got lucky and not think but what about w/w? in the moment. That sort of dissonance isn't wolfy.

From a wolf's POV though knowing that there were w/w wagons, that post would be a super high level play to make. If think if filthy is a wolf then irtm likely isn't.
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10-17-2021 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
This feels not wolfy. I'm not sure if it's villagery, it's just sort of "not wolfy".
I doubt that makes sense.
I'm just going to quote things as I read it because it's easier, but this feels like a bit of an awkward interaction to me
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10-17-2021 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Shad_
I mean a villager can see that they voted a wolf over an unknown at the last minute and go whew I got lucky and not think but what about w/w? in the moment. That sort of dissonance isn't wolfy.

From a wolf's POV though knowing that there were w/w wagons, that post would be a super high level play to make. If think if filthy is a wolf then irtm likely isn't.
ah, yeah, I forgot about filthys day 2 also mostly just being wanting to vote irtm

he never really pushes anything himself so it could still just be hard distancing, but, I find that unlikely from memory lol

what do you think about filthy/bsball interactions from filthys side last day phase
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10-17-2021 , 03:13 PM
how apprehensive is bsball of comrade usually
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10-17-2021 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
right, it just seems like fanmail said irtm had a bad reentrance, and that was it. meanwhile i was voting irtm all day long, and then you say it looks best for fanmail.

that's the part i was confused about
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
so if irtm is a villager, then i am pretty clear. and if i vote for irtm tonight, and he is a wolf, then i am really clear.

i do have him as my top wolf for now, but reasons are pretty slim lol... just the wiggles w/w interaction feeling i got, and his vote yesterday was terrible... i guess that's not that slim now that i think about it
Then again filthy has been pretty eager to let everyone know he should get cred if irtm flips wolf.

I dunno that would be a hell of a lot of bussing though.
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10-17-2021 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tessepia
how apprehensive is bsball of comrade usually
They wolfed together last game. That's all I know.

Saw your last question but haven't gotten there yet.
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10-17-2021 , 03:19 PM
Oh yeah I was light ignoring filthy because I thought he and Aaron were the PRs. Just got to the post where I thought he was softing haha
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10-17-2021 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by tessepia
oh anyone in (me, shad, irtm, filthy, bsball) only has to find 1 town in there for a game winning PoE

I thought this game was going to be hard lmao
Yeah we're in pretty good shape, even if I get mislunched it's a w a high % of the time
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10-17-2021 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by aaronk56
Anyway here's where I am atm:

Villagers:
aaronk56
tessepia
luckbox

Middle of the pack:
Shad
Filthy
bsball
IRTM

Wolves:
fanmail
Doctor Z
If Aaron shoots a villager it's mylo.

If he shoots a wolf then the last remaining wolf needs two mislynches.

There was a very high probability that he was shooting Fanmail. Wolves still didn't risk it.

I think this game's just solved from my pov.
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10-17-2021 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bsball8806
i know



I didn't read it as anxious anxiety as much as some combination of sarcasm/genuine curiousity. But the meaning behind the words matters less than word choice if we're getting semantic.
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yeah i mean i said it was a thin read, i just think v birdman is more likely than w birdman to use it

it's really not worth digging into too much, just moved the needle
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DZ is pretty villagery, tessa are you from MU/how many games do you play there? i'm inclined to think they're probably a villager too
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
iraisetoomuch

such an obvious wolf
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wolves:

irtm
shad
bsball

rerand
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
btw,

the extent of my wolf hunting

irtm 12 posts and no vote

i know he has done that as a villager. but it's not right! you gotta vote bro!

and then shad and bsball are low posting, but still here.

i gave kawamii a pass for 0 posting. when you show up but barely post, that's like a wolf who doesn't want to post

and i gave creature a pass just cuz he was here and posting when i did. but im putting creature on the wolf list too


wolves:

irtm
shad
bsball
creature
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wiggles
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kawamii

not showing up is bs
assorted quotes lol

on the bsball town reading comrade thing, it was his first read and I think he as a wolf would definitely be trying to pocket comrade. I also really don't like how it develops if I'm remembering but I couldn't find the post. Maybe missed it or remembered it wrong, I'll look for it more specifically, but he talks here a lot about how it's a light read and then later acts as it's enough to reasonably town read comrade (himself) but that it's light because he doesn't expect anyone else to agree

which just doesn't really feel like how he actually made the read in these quotes

anyways as for filthy, he interestingly has literally shad, bsball, irtm all in his original wolves which literally just has 1-2 wolves (1 if he is one)

so to be a wolf he's definitely distancing here, and that kinda is what it feels like to me

the vote on irtm has intentionally strong language, considering he later even says what he doesn't like from him isn't wolfy, which I don't like in general

he also very soon after throws a random vote on wiggles but the amount of care he has in it is very little, later switching to Kami, which is where I remember his primary focus in pushing day 1 was

so he calls out 2 wolves here (not directly though if in shad/bsball) and votes them but it literally has no weight to it and seems intentionally more heavy handed with irtm before going on to push a town
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10-17-2021 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Shad_
If Aaron shoots a villager it's mylo.

If he shoots a wolf then the last remaining wolf needs two mislynches.

There was a very high probability that he was shooting Fanmail. Wolves still didn't risk it.

I think this game's just solved from my pov.
yeah--I'm thinking that of these irtm is actually the most likely not-Fanmail shot just cause of day 1 stuff, so this is making me consider him more too
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10-17-2021 , 03:34 PM
Man now I'm going to slink into that sorry-ass state where I'm not very motivated to solve more because bsball/filthy/irtm should always be gg but I know I'm a reasonable inclusion in everybody else's POE.
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10-17-2021 , 03:36 PM
Started reading from beginning and then quit after about 300 posts
Trying to find things I missed
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10-17-2021 , 03:38 PM
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anyways as for filthy, he interestingly has literally shad, bsball, irtm all in his original wolves which literally just has 1-2 wolves (1 if he is one)

so to be a wolf he's definitely distancing here, and that kinda is what it feels like to me
wolf!filthy would have named 1 wolf and 3 villagers there so exactly rand

not that it matters but I disagree with the characterization that it's meaningful distancing on its own
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