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10-16-2021 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by bsball8806
I still have this gut feeling that DZ is a villager - and the fact that I don't think aaron is either is leaving me with no real viable choices of the wagon contenders
can you talk about you read on him in general then
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10-16-2021 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Doctor Zeus
Kinda yes
It really seems to me like you adjusted your claimed read on aaron after being called out on his actual post volume on a day by day basis

Like here is what happened

Zeus: Aaron has been more active than I've ever seen him, but idk what to make of it

Me: huh

Zeus: Well, I've seen him be UTR as a villager and a wolf, and his posts are villagery here

Me: okay then, call him a villager

Zeus: My point was that I woke up and saw he was posting a lot recently, and comment on that being surprising- but not actually read the content of the posts immediately

Me: But he's posted more every other day than this one

Zeus: Aaron doesn't post like this normally. Also, I think you're a wolf for hounding me about this

Me: ???
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10-16-2021 , 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by bsball8806
It really seems to me like you adjusted your claimed read on aaron after being called out on his actual post volume on a day by day basis

Like here is what happened

Zeus: Aaron has been more active than I've ever seen him, but idk what to make of it

Me: huh

Zeus: Well, I've seen him be UTR as a villager and a wolf, and his posts are villagery here

Me: okay then, call him a villager

Zeus: My point was that I woke up and saw he was posting a lot recently, and comment on that being surprising- but not actually read the content of the posts immediately

Me: But he's posted more every other day than this one

Zeus: Aaron doesn't post like this normally. Also, I think you're a wolf for hounding me about this

Me: ???
so you agree?
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10-16-2021 , 10:52 AM
Doctor Zeus
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10-16-2021 , 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by tessepia
can you talk about you read on him in general then
Points in favor:
- Voted KW
- Kind of seemed resigned to being lunched yesterday when the wagons were him/creature (if I were a wolf being wagoned against v!creature, i would probably try a bit harder - something I noted D2 as well). Note he's trying a bit harder today and this is why it seems like I'm struggling to align this with what I think about him in general
-Many of his posts seem like he's actively trying to solve and not just do the wolf thing where they half sponge the thread consensus. This is really the biggest thing in favor, where I read some posts and am just like "man this really doesn't seem like something a wolf could ever post"

Points against:
-Kind of seems like he's making up some reads/adjusting his opinions based on being put under more scrutiny (however, this is something villagers do too sometimes)
-Basically the entire thread thinks he's a wolf, and he's never not going to be a wagon
-Weird posting where he basically acted like he didn't have a read on creature when he had supposedly been calling creature a wolf
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10-16-2021 , 10:56 AM
like if he's a wolf why would he ever adjust his wolf read on me to be trending toward neutral (upward) where a few other people have started to shade me? Unless we're w/w this makes no sense
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10-16-2021 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by bsball8806
Points in favor:
- Voted KW
- Kind of seemed resigned to being lunched yesterday when the wagons were him/creature (if I were a wolf being wagoned against v!creature, i would probably try a bit harder - something I noted D2 as well). Note he's trying a bit harder today and this is why it seems like I'm struggling to align this with what I think about him in general
-Many of his posts seem like he's actively trying to solve and not just do the wolf thing where they half sponge the thread consensus. This is really the biggest thing in favor, where I read some posts and am just like "man this really doesn't seem like something a wolf could ever post"

Points against:
-Kind of seems like he's making up some reads/adjusting his opinions based on being put under more scrutiny (however, this is something villagers do too sometimes)
-Basically the entire thread thinks he's a wolf, and he's never not going to be a wagon
-Weird posting where he basically acted like he didn't have a read on creature when he had supposedly been calling creature a wolf
lmao, I think the intent of my post was lost because of quotes only going one back

I meant to ask what your read on luckbox has been overall
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10-16-2021 , 11:00 AM
also I'm confused why you put "voted KW" as positive. You did this before too

I asked about if you had read Shads post then and you went back and quoted it to say something like "yeah" so I'm confused what you actually think about it

do you think the way DZ went about voting and handling his Wiggles read was towny or wolfy

or are you just saying "voted wiggles so that's good"
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10-16-2021 , 11:01 AM
Votes from post 1549 to post 1808
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4 Doctor Zeus Luckbox Inc (17), filthyvermin (13), iraisetoomuch (24), aaronk56 (26)
1 aaronk56 fanmail (31)
1 Luckbox Inc bsball8806 (41)
1 fanmail Doctor Zeus (47)
2 not voting Shad_ (18), tessepia (36)
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10-16-2021 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by bsball8806
like if he's a wolf why would he ever adjust his wolf read on me to be trending toward neutral (upward) where a few other people have started to shade me? Unless we're w/w this makes no sense
I think you and him decently likely could be w/w

though that post is actually one that gives me hesitation there, it's probably more valid to say "if you're his partner why doesn't he just wolf read you more"

idk how he distances but that does feel like the kind of thing he'd do

irt him doing if you town him wolf, it's just trying to give content to look villagery. Not that complicated to answer why he would imo
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10-16-2021 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by tessepia
lmao, I think the intent of my post was lost because of quotes only going one back

I meant to ask what your read on luckbox has been overall
-aggressive pushing of DZ almost to the point of anti-spew
-hasn't been posting today/last night much, and what he has done has once again been about DZ
-POE
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10-16-2021 , 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by tessepia
also I'm confused why you put "voted KW" as positive. You did this before too

I asked about if you had read Shads post then and you went back and quoted it to say something like "yeah" so I'm confused what you actually think about it

do you think the way DZ went about voting and handling his Wiggles read was towny or wolfy

or are you just saying "voted wiggles so that's good"
yes

i think in spite of what shad posted, which is a reasonable thing to think, the fact that he voted a wolf in and of itself is villagery

i don't think wolves just bus for fun early on in games and assuming that it happens frequently is wrong
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10-16-2021 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by DustinG
Votes from post 822 to post 1544
Night in 0:00:08

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6 Creature Doctor Zeus (45), iraisetoomuch (49), aaronk56 (30), filthyvermin (50), Creature (49), fanmail (59)
4 Doctor Zeus Luckbox Inc (72), tessepia (45), Shad_ (66), Comrade_Pupper (166)
1 unvote bsball8806 (72)

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Originally Posted by aaronk56
DZ
EoD
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10-16-2021 , 11:12 AM
why were you no voting bsball
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10-16-2021 , 11:14 AM
i had said all day i was voting creature

but didn't want to maj

and then when i refreshed maj had already occurred
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10-16-2021 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Creature
Creature

Not gonna stay another day like this.
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Originally Posted by fanmail
fml creature I guess
pretty bad vote imo

why did you vote creature here? Did you see his self vote/what did you think about it? and why "fml"
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10-16-2021 , 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by bsball8806
i had said all day i was voting creature

but didn't want to maj

and then when i refreshed maj had already occurred
idk if this is the kinda thing you would consider but how come you didn't just hammer creature if you wanted him to die over dz
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10-16-2021 , 11:16 AM
like dz definitely could have died there and I'd think you want to prevent that

true even considering if you're protecting wolf dz but I think wolves are more likely to be scared about something like that regardless
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10-16-2021 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
ok creature,

now is the time to vote Zeus
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
holy crap don't vote Creature
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
aaronk,

go zeus please
still think this is almost never with DZ even for luckbox, and just villagery in general for conviction
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10-16-2021 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by tessepia
idk if this is the kinda thing you would consider but how come you didn't just hammer creature if you wanted him to die over dz
yeah his self-vote kind of threw me off a little
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10-16-2021 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Creature
I don't have much faith DZ flips wolf here. Not really sure if I want to risk DZ flipping town and then the entire next day being just another wagon on me.
bruh moment at this being why creature self voted

now it's just the same thing but in reverse T.T
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10-16-2021 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by bsball8806
yeah his self-vote kind of threw me off a little
threw you off how
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10-16-2021 , 11:20 AM
just in case it's not obvious, if i die tonight

bsball is a wolf
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10-16-2021 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by tessepia
like dz definitely could have died there and I'd think you want to prevent that

true even considering if you're protecting wolf dz but I think wolves are more likely to be scared about something like that regardless
i don't think DZ had reasonable chance of dying there (as in, out of my control), and Creature was hovering between 5-6 votes for most of the day. I wanted either of them to be able to claim last minute if they needed to

Regardless i agree that if i had to do it again i would have voted creature earlier
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10-16-2021 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by filthyvermin
just in case it's not obvious, if i die tonight

bsball is a wolf
whys that
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