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12-21-2012 , 06:59 PM
I'll post cliffs + quotes on a McAvoy vote later. I would encourage people to read his posts, especially his start of day 2 posts.




-day1 favours anarchist and LKJ votes

-day2 "Shark needs to die" (Without mentioning he had been peeked wolf he just suddenly had an urge like he somehow knew)
-Birdie mentions Shark was peeked by vix (dead seer)
-McAvoy is ready with all the implications of this within 5minutes despite admitting in anouther post he hadn't read the entire thread and is unable to search posts by name.

-day3 McAvoy doesn't post all day, within half an hour of being brought up appears to defend himself.


Doubt I'll get this wagon going today but would like to discuss it for a rainy day.
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12-21-2012 , 07:00 PM
Binkles does do weird **** on purpose, first of all.

Second it doesn't require annie to be a wolf anyway, it's STILL "clearing" for generic player A to do that. That's the point of doing it, unless he developed some sort of sick powerful read that LKJ was a better lynched based on the posts.

Which, by the way, annie wasn't really participating in. . .
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12-21-2012 , 07:01 PM
By the way deco is now nearly lock clear for focusing on a completely non-consensus wagon (McAids) at a time where that's unnecessary and not worth his time.
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12-21-2012 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by soah
He hadn't made any attempt to get you lynched. He was on the record as having a strong wolf read on you but focused all of his attention on others like BLS and gave reasons not to vote for you while still calling you a wolf. That is how wolves treat other wolves.
He made 4-5 posts on me being a wolf. He wanted to lynch me the next day only because I hadn't a vote to my name. Lets say I'm a wolf what do you think the purpose of him repeatedly advocating my wolfiness? His reasons for doing so where identical to yours (That I am constructing naivity).
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12-21-2012 , 07:05 PM
I really think annie / monte (not your fault) / bankles wins a lot and that annie / bankles is the lion's share of that
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12-21-2012 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
Binkles does do weird **** on purpose, first of all.

Second it doesn't require annie to be a wolf anyway, it's STILL "clearing" for generic player A to do that. That's the point of doing it, unless he developed some sort of sick powerful read that LKJ was a better lynched based on the posts.

Which, by the way, annie wasn't really participating in. . .
but if annie's a villager, then binkles' late flip doesn't mean anything, because he could just as easily do it as a wolf with no repurcussions

that's all i'm saying
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12-21-2012 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
I really think annie / monte (not your fault) / bankles wins a lot and that annie / bankles is the lion's share of that
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12-21-2012 , 07:17 PM
no but it does mean something, he knows it looks bad to create a flip, he knows it's worse to have a villager die in a flip, he knows it's weird for villagers to be flopping around at EOD when they've already established their place on the other wagon, and he knows it looks like frivolous unnecessary activity that "wolves don't do"
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12-21-2012 , 07:18 PM
Ghetto vote count (#1982)

Anarchist 4 (Birdie, Hoya, Mac, well named)
McAvoy (Deco)

Not voting/unvote: Annie, bankles, monte, Soah

Night is in 3:42, 10:00 good, 10:01 bad.
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12-21-2012 , 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Montecore
that's all well and good in theory

i don't think many players ever do that to save a wolfbro though

that binkles is one of the players that COULD do it doesn't mean i have to agree that it's particularly likely that he actually did do it this time

so your theory is that binkles and annie are exactly the last two wolves? because that's the only way this conversation we're having really makes any sense
I've only played one game with binkles where he was a wolf and he did things like that. Not literally the exact same thing, but conceptually similar. I'd like to be more specific but unfortunately I can't quite remember the precise details. I do remember he tried to CFD me out of the blue without offering any sort of reason for it and he was making posts about one of his fellow wolves that seemed to serve no purpose at all if they were w/w (this is where the details are fuzzy - he was defending the wolf but something about it was strange).
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12-21-2012 , 07:20 PM
WN get in here, we need your services.
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12-21-2012 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
no but it does mean something, he knows it looks bad to create a flip, he knows it's worse to have a villager die in a flip, he knows it's weird for villagers to be flopping around at EOD when they've already established their place on the other wagon, and he knows it looks like frivolous unnecessary activity that "wolves don't do"
i can probably talk more intelligently about it once i've actually gotten to it in my reread

i will say that ime most villagers tend to flip flop more at EOD than wolves

i'll grant bankles is not most villagers
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12-21-2012 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Deco354
He made 4-5 posts on me being a wolf. He wanted to lynch me the next day only because I hadn't a vote to my name. Lets say I'm a wolf what do you think the purpose of him repeatedly advocating my wolfiness? His reasons for doing so where identical to yours (That I am constructing naivity).
He had something like 130 posts on d1. 4-5 of them being about you is virtually nothing, especially when you are supposedly one of his top suspects.
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12-21-2012 , 07:25 PM
I'm not really going to be around much for EOD.

I have a couple minutes
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12-21-2012 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Montecore
so your theory is that binkles and annie are exactly the last two wolves?
That's not at all what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that binkles should never be awarded villager points for levelly types of things.
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12-21-2012 , 07:26 PM
WN are you doing the thing where you take a break as a wolf because things are well in hand or can I continue relying on you to be a villager? Basically determines whether the game is already almost won or whether we're totally ****ed.
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12-21-2012 , 07:27 PM
I'm doing the thing where I'm a villager who has company coming over for dinner :P

What did you want to ask me?
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12-21-2012 , 07:28 PM
I think soah is a wolf here like 70+%
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12-21-2012 , 07:30 PM
I'm also clearing hoya

cause I feel like
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12-21-2012 , 07:31 PM
Yeah I'm not enthused with his summary of events but I wasn't going to say anything until he took a position on bankles.
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12-21-2012 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by soah
That's not at all what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that binkles should never be awarded villager points for levelly types of things.
well i'm not leaning villager on him yet so i guess we're kind of in agreeance right now

but iirc you were trying to explicitly say it was wolfy of him earlier, which i don't agree with
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12-21-2012 , 07:37 PM
mac not responding to my question when he was still in the thread when i asked it is both rustling and suspicious

also asking about my wolf game and then not commenting about it when i answer means he didn't really care about the answer and was just posting to post
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12-21-2012 , 07:41 PM
ok im here

no joking around

if i get lynched today that's bad for all of us

let's go
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12-21-2012 , 07:42 PM
ok first of all montecore is a wolf
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12-21-2012 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BirdieLongSocks
Noah, Annie, Nofear

The villager/s in you needs to step the **** up
ok
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