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06-10-2020 , 03:44 PM

#2076

JMurder3

not god, probably jebus

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 53,649

Happy to claim or not claim. Whatever the will of the people is. I'm not about to try to figure out mechanically optimal play.

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06-10-2020 , 03:45 PM

#2077

HerbieGRD

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 27,287

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Originally Posted by shortline99

No one should claim vanillager. Period.

I think we need more movement on wagons and action from non posters before anyone claims today anyway. There's still like 6 hours until night. Don't let non posters get their act together with extra info.

What?

After the game somebody is going to need to try to explain this to me, because I still think it’s obviously and disastrously wrong

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06-10-2020 , 03:45 PM

#2078

metsandfinsfan

banned

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 160,445

i understand herbies point

it forces wolves to claim vanillager before they want to if you made everyone who was here at a certain time claim

like now

im not sure its best but i understand his thinking

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06-10-2020 , 03:45 PM

#2079

shortline99

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 38,000

If chuckles legit isn't going to post either way, Patton needs a hard look again. His villager list really was truly weird. A lot of people are noticing it right now. Here it is again:

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Villa list (in order of villageriness)
Fnord
Zurvan
BobO
AaronK

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06-10-2020 , 03:45 PM

#2080

JMurder3

not god, probably jebus

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 53,649

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Originally Posted by BobOjedaFan

JMurder, the theory was not weird!
It was reverse brilliant

If it's any consolation I think Patton is the more likely wolf in that...but yeah, the reverse of brilliant seems about right.

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06-10-2020 , 03:45 PM

#2081

HerbieGRD

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 27,287

Don’t try to explain now, I’ll just think you’re a wolf and that won’t help

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06-10-2020 , 03:45 PM

#2082

Nicholasp27

27th level thinker

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 85,634

it gives us 6 clear people who we will never lynch...we win the game if those 6 don't ever get killed...it is high variance because if angel and joat block properly, then it's amazing, but if wolves eat/vig angel then they'll use 2/night to get through the 6, but it'll still take them 3-4 nights at worst and 5-6 nights at best (at which point we've already won)

watcher will also get good chance to see a wolf target someone

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06-10-2020 , 03:46 PM

#2083

soah

Unexpected

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 61,666

Quote:

Originally Posted by shortline99

If the busy people are villagers then removing 6+ people for them to get reads on is really pro-village.

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06-10-2020 , 03:46 PM

#2084

JMurder3

not god, probably jebus

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 53,649

I agree with Herbie if we're going to claim EVERYONE should claim, though.

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06-10-2020 , 03:46 PM

#2085

metsandfinsfan

banned

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 160,445

and there are 2 non-posters, one who might get lyhnched and the other might get vigged but you are worried about giving them too much info?

what planet are you on today shorty

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06-10-2020 , 03:47 PM

#2086

Nicholasp27

27th level thinker

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 85,634

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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

looks pretty clear to me and it took 2 seconds to find

shrug

he pretends the target was the other person from the get go

so in my example, he pretends it's soah, not shorty

but it doesn't say he will return "soah is vanillager" which tells the seer that shorty was redirector...

i think he just says "vanillager" in response to the peek

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06-10-2020 , 03:47 PM

#2087

HerbieGRD

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 27,287

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Originally Posted by Nicholasp27

And what if the 6 people who claim are 4 power villagers and 2 wolves and there are two other power villagers who don’t claim because they think they are smarter than us and want to stay hidden

This backfires far more often than it works

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06-10-2020 , 03:48 PM

#2088

metsandfinsfan

banned

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 160,445

so instead of moving to fnord like shorty said he was not against doing, he moved to a non-zero poster, even tho the zero posters have to be our top priority!!!!!!!!

i feel like you are just open-wolfing right now shortline. and poorly

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06-10-2020 , 03:49 PM

#2089

soah

Unexpected

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 61,666

Quote:

Originally Posted by HerbieGRD

Well that's two wolves who would be outed within a day or so.

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06-10-2020 , 03:49 PM

#2090

metsandfinsfan

banned

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 160,445

im used to epicmafia turboes where everyone claims day 2 which is probably why im so focused on it here

maybe

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06-10-2020 , 03:49 PM

#2091

HerbieGRD

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 27,287

And what if we get 8 claims?

4 claims?

This literally only works if everyone claims

Keep in mind - the wolves know who they are, so they will know the breakdown regardless of how many claims we get.

We only know the breakdown if everybody claims something truthfully

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06-10-2020 , 03:50 PM

#2092

HerbieGRD

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 27,287

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Originally Posted by soah

Well that's two wolves who would be outed within a day or so.

I always do this, and I’m wrong too much to count on it, but good lord I hope you’re a wolf saying this

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06-10-2020 , 03:50 PM

#2093

shortline99

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 38,000

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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

i'm definitely doing something. you just might not know or like what it is.

i want to see more posts from Chuckles, Aaron, Patton, StephenH, and Fnord. regardless of anyone's position on my role: does anyone disagree with that?

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06-10-2020 , 03:50 PM

#2094

DustinG

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 31,442

shortline
Not feeling Stephan. Going to walk the dog and come back and read him but shortline seems like the better alternative.

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06-10-2020 , 03:54 PM

#2095

shortline99

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 38,000

not voting:

aaronk56 (4), chuckleslovakian (0), fnord_too (0), HerbieGRD (27), nuggetz87 (6), OldStephenH (23), Patton4 (9)

nuggetz and herbie have both claimed vanillager already

can we PLEASE make aaron, chuckles, fnord, patton, stephen post some more?

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06-10-2020 , 03:55 PM

#2096

soah

Unexpected

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 61,666

Quote:

Originally Posted by HerbieGRD

people who don't claim are effectively claiming vanilla

point is there's no reason for those people to go first in case the plan changes before people have actually claimed

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06-10-2020 , 03:56 PM

#2097

HerbieGRD

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 27,287

Soah you have to see the problem with saying people who don’t claim are effectively claiming vanillager

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06-10-2020 , 03:56 PM

#2098

soah

Unexpected

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 61,666

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustinG

Not feeling Stephan.

Why not? He's been nearly invisible since Monday despite being around a lot.

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06-10-2020 , 03:57 PM

#2099

shortline99

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 38,000

soah do you agree that Herbie pretty much has to be a villager here?

do you agree that the people i am mentioning need to post more?

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06-10-2020 , 03:58 PM

#2100

HerbieGRD

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 27,287

Anyways whatever if you’re a villager and want to win there is a clear right answer here

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