I don't think so. You were a rand coin flip from losing on F7.

That's not "thoroughly outplayed" in anyone's book.

Fair. I think you should have either gone more or less a-hole, the balance you struck made you seem village but a little easy to disregard maybe. It wouldn't be a problem if you'd had a game to 'break people in' to you first, but in a completely new meta I think it was the reason nobody really listened to you.

But let's ask!

Why didn't you guys listen to Darth? Was it just spew from me or were there other factors?

I listened. It fit in perfectly with my vote / BW analysis. This "lie" (I use the term in game to denote any perceived misrepresentation) had also followed up on Mooch's misrepresentation that my entire reason for eliminating Darth from my high probability scum list was due solely to a single post.

Darth's breakdown was the nail in the coffin for Mooch as far as I was concerned.

I know we won but CDL's posts are making me feel like I lost somehow.

Wasn't aware I was supposed to be dodging a voyeur lol

And again, like I said in the chat and guild agreed with...the way N0 played out was advantageous to the wolves. It's absurd to say it was bad luck for guild to be peeked but not bad luck for guild to be voyeured. That makes no sense.

The trade was JOAT for full cop + free bussing that no one would ever know about. Which moocher hugely benefitted from. It was better for the wolves.

And two of us were smart enough to take advantage!

Sorta this, but not exactly.

Stealing the peek DEFINITELY occurred to me. The problems with it are:

1) If I run into a village watcher of some kind, there's going to be some serious explaining to do.

2) If I run into a wolf watcher of any kind, I probably die before I get to expose the peek

3) If I steal the peek and use it I can't exactly leave peek COVER without being really blatant about it, because there's no way anyone can know I would have a peek.

4) Even if I successfully steal the peek n2 and live through d3 and successfully use it n3 and peek a wolf d4 and out the peek to get them lynched, is that significantly better than hunting wolfy people n2 and n3 and possibly stopping another harmful action?

So do I send my votes to ChampionsMod or to Thingyman? Or does it matter as long as it gets to either/or?

I sent to both.

Unless I have travelled to the future and back, I'm pretty sure I not only received your votes - but I even received them on both Thingyman and ChampionsMod, so you're good :P

If you're wanting to change your votes, either will do.

Sorry. I wasn't meaning the two were in opposition. Actually I don't think it was bad luck but good play from you (and then checking me next). It's one reason I nominated you.

sorry most of that was responding to CDL, i just quoted yours too since it was the same topic

I thought Moocher was really towny d1. Luckbox maf sided for 2 out of the last 3 days

I believe he - or was it Nick - saying they basically surrendered if it turned out I was scum as they were almost lock sure I was Town. So they were helpful.

So, I admit I maybe didn't do optimal Traitor or the way some of you would have but something in there worked.

You did it exactly right. I watched Mooch becoming more and more sure you were traitor, and the near reveal d9 felt very well done for alleviating any anxiety he may have had over nks... I don't think anyone has room to disparage your performance. It was very smooth.

Yeah I voted rokk for scum MVP. He played well. Although cory nailed him day one IIRC.

Wait, i wasnt doctor?

rk played great but like I've said multiple times, not knowing the wolves is close to cheating

So when you don't know your Mafia teammates because you don't look at the role PM, are you cheating?

( and sorry if my prior post sounded like I was looking for a pat on the back. Thank you, though, for those who said such nice things of me being Eeevil. I do feel and some people feel I loopholes some rules with my avatar.)

I think it was Phelanpt who was on me the most. I was relieved when he started to get distracted and then killed. (Sorry Phel). Cory may have had me in his crosshairs too though for all I know.

Man rokk i was hoping you were vanilla trying to play the last maf into outing

No, I was, and I still thought you were town AND knew not to cc you.

#pro

It is an advantage for sure.

it's close to cheating like I've said..but in a spirit of the game sort of way.. But the sort of interesting thing for me now is because people know I do it, I no longer get the meta benefit of it.. Not that I ever find a wolf on d1 anymore unless it's mets..

and I usually look by n1 to seer hunt so it's just for d1.