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04-19-2012 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by godkata
Pavels case one me still being that i came close to a lynch but never died?
Firstly i dont think he has a case.
I was merely active on day1 and came itt 3hours before eod on day2. I probably deserved to be a wagon.
Saying that its wolfy i havent been lynched is just a weird thing to say. I even came close enough on day 2, if atakpride doesnt maj it im getting lynched.

My case on him is that he has been peeked by ascetic.
Im kinda biased about this since i now know he was peeked.
But i understand that you cant be as sure as i am.
I made my posts about it but if you want i can link/write it up again.
Who do you think the other two wolves are?
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04-19-2012 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Quoth
That doesn't make a ton of sense given the likely draft dynamics (and you agreed with me on d1 about what the likely draft dynamics were, if I remember correctly).
I'm disagreeing with you about the idea that they are doing nothing out of other obligations though. I think it is an active strategy.
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04-19-2012 , 03:11 PM
Billy, it definitely doesn't make a lot of sense for godkata and pavel to be wolves together. It's not impossible, it's just there's not much incentive for wolves to setup a must lynch scenario in which only a wolf can get lynched. It would be nice if this was the case but I doubt it is.

Godkata's response to being voted is super wolfy, but pavel doesn't really look that great the way he's just kind of hanging around after having voted.

I don't know. I guess I"m going to re-read them both
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04-19-2012 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by billy goat gruff
quoth im very confident that pavel is a wolf. when i re-read AA's post, i realized the post that he lumped mary sue villa wiht pavel wolf had something special in it.

he made sure to note that mary sue being a villa was contingent on pavel being a wolf. it would have been the other way around if pavel was not a peek.
but if that's the case, who was the second peek?
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04-19-2012 , 03:12 PM
both their responses are incredibly subpar shiitake.

im willing to bet my shorts that pavel is a wolf(just a saying, im not betting in case anyone says this is ont allowed). a little less so on my godkata read, but godkata's defense is really really bad here.
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04-19-2012 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by shiitake
but if that's the case, who was the second peek?
mary sue villager ldo.
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04-19-2012 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Quoth
Who do you think the other two wolves are?
As i said before, if youre a wolf we die.
With Pavel being a wolf id go to shiitake next. Im starting to doubt myself a little because his posting makes a lot of sense most of the time.
But there has to be smart wolves right?
Billy deserves a reread from me if only because me and him were kind of always on a different line of thinking. Some of his posts threw me off.
Ellinka is basically the same thing but a little thinner.

atakpup is a whole different animal. If we werent at ML id say we shouldnt let him get to ML.
But he isnt my first option after Pavel.
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04-19-2012 , 03:14 PM
did you mean to say your mother instead of mary sue being contingent then?
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04-19-2012 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Pavel Datsyuk
I'm disagreeing with you about the idea that they are doing nothing out of other obligations though. I think it is an active strategy.
No, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the discussion on d1. It's hard for me to see a captain picking someone as a wolf who he expects to have an UTR playing style, let alone three on the same team.
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04-19-2012 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by shiitake
but if that's the case, who was the second peek?
billy goat gruff said Mary Sue in that post when he meant to say your mother.
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04-19-2012 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by shiitake
did you mean to say your mother instead of mary sue being contingent then?
no.
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04-19-2012 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by godkata
As i said before, if youre a wolf we die.
With Pavel being a wolf id go to shiitake next. Im starting to doubt myself a little because his posting makes a lot of sense most of the time.
But there has to be smart wolves right?
Billy deserves a reread from me if only because me and him were kind of always on a different line of thinking. Some of his posts threw me off.
Ellinka is basically the same thing but a little thinner.

atakpup is a whole different animal. If we werent at ML id say we shouldnt let him get to ML.
But he isnt my first option after Pavel.
this post is longish but doesn't say a whole lot
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04-19-2012 , 03:18 PM
no i said and meant mary sue.
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04-19-2012 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by billy goat gruff
no.
okay then I'm confused too, but we really don't need to get into it

we all know where we stand on the likelihood of Pavel being one of ascetic's peeks; we don't need to rehash it
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04-19-2012 , 03:19 PM
I continue to think my understanding of ascetic's peeks makes the most sense, but I don't think there's much point in arguing about it any further. I don't think we should decide this lynch assuming that pavel is peeked wolf though.
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04-19-2012 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by shiitake
I continue to think my understanding of ascetic's peeks makes the most sense, but I don't think there's much point in arguing about it any further. I don't think we should decide this lynch assuming that pavel is peeked wolf though.
obviously; otherwise you would have voted Pavel already
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04-19-2012 , 03:20 PM
look if godkata can have enough time to dig up the seer post that i missed on Pavel, hes got enough time to give a better defense than he currently has espeically since there is a strong possibility he will not survive end gaem. instead hes doing nothing.

this in itself would clear pavel a bit, except pavel is like lock wolf.
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04-19-2012 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Pavel Datsyuk
this is a wolf claim right?
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actually, I think it is quite possible that both atakpup and ascetic acid are wolves.
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Originally Posted by Pavel Datsyuk
atakpup
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no, the logic seems fine. Also, the thread opened at a time that POG as a whole is very inactive. It would not surprise me if they had a heads up from the mod in wolfchat. I really dont think villas would be here f5ing at 5:45 server time.

why did you give ascetic acid a villa lean though?
I think this entrance is very villagery. It's the gung-ho throwing out theories diving into the thread excited to find wolves villager tell.
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04-19-2012 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Quoth
obviously; otherwise you would have voted Pavel already
I guess when I said we I meant you
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04-19-2012 , 03:23 PM
shiitake i can save you a lot of work if i just vote pavel now.
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04-19-2012 , 03:23 PM
Ive probably been going at this the wrong way.
I know Pavel is a wolf, let me reread him and try to find if he left something for us.
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04-19-2012 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by godkata
Ive probably been going at this the wrong way.
I know Pavel is a wolf, let me reread him and try to find if he left something for us.
how is that?
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04-19-2012 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by billy goat gruff
shiitake i can save you a lot of work if i just vote pavel now.
I don't think that's going to save me any work
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04-19-2012 , 03:29 PM
Here's the thing

Just skimming search results, godkata is so much wolfier then pavel. There are maybe 2 or 3 godkata posts in the entire game that are villagery. The thing is this really is coming down to whether or not you think pavel is a peeked wolf, because there's no other reason why we should ever lynch him ahead of godkata or (as I would have preferred) ellinika or atakpup
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04-19-2012 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by shiitake
how is that?
Youre right.
If he is a villager the wolves still need another vote or its just a coinflip. And that wouldnt be worth it. Still im a viable target, he voted fast.
Its not unknown for wolves to make the first vote.
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