if you lead a lynch on someone else despite claiming that atakpride is a wolf I have a sneaking suspicion that you wont ever be a wolf nk.

im saying that I focus on "I" will have learned nothing. if you think u get somethign from this, then im all down for it.

to me its like lynching an outed wolf.

bgg i just explained it above.

I honestly cant respond to you anymore without breaking the rules for personal attacks so I'm going to lurk the thread instead. If you keep posting nonsense I am going to have to put you on ignore or something to keep contributing.

billy: you are drastically overvaluing information relative to the value in removing wolves from the game.

even in your hypothetical, there is a lot of information to be learned from an atakpride wolf lynch. He was a lead wagon on d1 for some part of the day.

see this is a solid response.

except to me, atakpride is flipping wolf always. so imo i havent learned anything.

but if u are unsure that atakpride is a wolf, then this line is very good.

need more explanations like these instead of just attacks on my logic and basic ww logic.

ALWAYS LYNCH THE OUTTED WOLF IN A VANILLA. THATS ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEED.

im not very good at explaining my thought process so you have to cope with me, but I really doubt my logic is wrong.

would u like me to vote atakpride now so we can just move onto maj?

your logic is definitely wrong

but I think I was wrong to call you a wolf for it. I've settled down now. I just had this moment of thinking this was you deliberately pushing because you needed to create more viable mislynches or something.

i will do so, if mary sue felt like she has said everything she needs to say today. seems like our wagon is set and the only thing is we want mary sue to get everything she wants to say before she goes tonight.

how about this. it is more valuable to avoid must lynch (where a single misstep is locked in and cannot be corrected, thus giving wolves a victory) than gaining any amount of information (short of EXACTLY the composition of the wolf team) in a vanilla.

DO NOT MAJORITY. let anyone else that wants to contribute contribute.

There is definitely something to learn from lynching atakpride wolf. Whether he's obviously one or not

who would contribute now when they can see atakpride flip wolf and mary sue flip villa before they contribute in the morning? its not like we are moving the lynch off atakpride today either.

anyone who has free time

whats the vote count right now anyways, i want to leave my vote before i have to go

Votes as of post 1342
Night in 03:00
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Votes	Lynch	Voters
3	Atakpride	Mary Sue (58), Atakpup (22), Pavel Datsyuk (83)
2	Pavel Datsyuk	Atakpride (27), Quoth (21)
1	Billy goat gruff	Shiitake (46)
1	Godkata	Ellinika se mena (17)
2	not voting	Billy goat gruff (43), Godkata (26)

unvote

if you have to go you can vote now. I can vote later.

godkata

atakpride

bgg, atakpride flipping wolf tells us quite a bit.

let's look at last night.

the vote is
yourmother = 5
godkata = 4

majority = 6 votes

this is maj at 8:59:
If he flips wolf, WHY IS HE MAJORITY VOTING a villager at 8:59pm?

He is saving someone or there's no way he switches votes at that point. The other wagon is Godkata, and your mother is trying to get a CFD going on Shiitake. He's saving one of them if he's a wolf, and possibly both.

he then follows up the maj night vote with a night post trying to vote for godkata:

godkata is not dying but says gl village:

atakpride with another night post, this time with tmi:

so if atakpride flips wolf, one or both of godkata and shiitake are a wolf.

that is why we are lynching atakpride first. I also think the Thax night kill might have been because he straight up called atakpride a wolf the way a seer would do it (the quoth = v peek was woat, so I doubt a wolf team NKs him for that).

i really like this post. thanks for explaining it in thsi manner.
i have to get back to work though, so im not gonna come back today. i have this post bookmarked though =P

i have a strong feeling that quoth is going to lead the village off a cliff tomorrow on pavel

at least lynch shiitake before you look at pavel, because if shiitake is a wolf, he spewed pavel as a villager in a post I already quoted.

Please dont maj it yet. Im here and will be voting atakpride if neccesary.
Someone should probably unvote were close to maj.