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04-18-2012 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mary Sue
at this point your mother hasn't posted yet, so this is kind of unprompted and nonsensical by itself

seer is basically saying "i can't reply to one of his posts and call him a villager if he isn't going to post anything."

agree.

I guess I cant be shocked that people are still pushing that I was the peek given that there are three wolves left and they would want to mislynch me. I wish billy would get in here since I have him firmly as a villa.
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04-18-2012 , 01:11 PM
ascetic's peeks were too clever by half

and yet the wolves figured him out

so we need to figure out how

Pavel, are you seriously saying that anyone who is inclined to view you as one of ascetic's peeks is >rand to be wolf themselves? Seriously?
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04-18-2012 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Ellinika se mena
am i the only one who got creepy vibes from early and oftens first 10 posts or so ?
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Originally Posted by Ellinika se mena
i like early and often so far unless he improved his posting in the second half of the thread (which im reading now)
ellinika's entrance to the thread on d1 is not particularly villagery. EAO was already a wagon and basically as consensus of a suspect as there was

the progression just seems fairly tentative, i.e "can I put my vote on a village wagon and not get too much heat?"
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04-18-2012 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Quoth
ascetic's peeks were too clever by half

and yet the wolves figured him out

so we need to figure out how

Pavel, are you seriously saying that anyone who is inclined to view you as one of ascetic's peeks is >rand to be wolf themselves? Seriously?

yes. I cant imagine any villager wants to lynch me after reading the posts that have shown I am clearly not a peek. However, the wolves probably decided that they need to mislynch me in chat last night and are going for it now. I assume that was part of the reason they killed ascetic. if they missed the seer last night they would have needed a mislynch and I am as good of an opportunity as anyone.
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04-18-2012 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Pavel Datsyuk
yes. I cant imagine any villager wants to lynch me after reading the posts that have shown I am clearly not a peek. However, the wolves probably decided that they need to mislynch me in chat last night and are going for it now. I assume that was part of the reason they killed ascetic. if they missed the seer last night they would have needed a mislynch and I am as good of an opportunity as anyone.
I don't think those posts show that you are clearly not a peek.

Maybe I'm stupid or something. Can you walk me through it again, and also explain away the Pavel=wolf posts that godkata quoted from d2 in #1080?
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04-18-2012 , 01:16 PM
The thing about clever peeks is usually what makes them confusing is focusing too much on stuff that gets said for leveling and ignoring the actual peeks. Like saying "I'm not leaving a peek d1". That's for wolf consumption primarily, I'd almost guarantee that.

when he makes simple posts about saying "OK you can't lynch mary sue, and you can't lynch your mother" then those are the peeks

the mechanical clearing thing about your mother is also really obvious. What other mechanical thing could possibly be clearing for him? Keep in mind that the argument that he peeked pavel wolf and then reads your mother villager based on that would not be mechanical, it would be based on spew. The word mechanical is pretty clearly important
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04-18-2012 , 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ascetic acid
FYI; I probably wont be around much today either. I'll drop my (fake)peeks later itt, feel free to ignore them. I'll make sure they are visible for everyone though
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Originally Posted by ascetic acid
Pavel is a wolf looking for another mislynch, don't let him get it.
Without being too detailed, the nk also implies that there is a great chance he is a wolf. The eod was bad too. Im so certain that he can be one of my fakepeeks.
which brings me to next player: Mary Sue villager.
Mary sue is spewed villager by parvel on d1 so if im right about parvel, im right about sue. Furthermore she is being villa for multiple reasons: sharing reads/updating reads often/made ppl aware that her vote was on EAO after wrong votecount etc etc etc

I wont give info about what peek was first since it can help wolves determine if im seer or not.
Theese assumptions makes me think our mother is villager since parlev is pushing her.

And thats how its done
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Originally Posted by ascetic acid
ascetic acid
mary sue
quoth
your mother
billy

I think maaaaaybe atakpride belong in this list.

I know I cant get Pavel lynched cuz multiple people would have to give up their cover and that is fine.

Random note: a wolf was probably wagoned last night given the eod
THIS SEQUENCE IS AN OBVIOUS PAVEL = WOLF PEEK. You cannot get clearer than that.

Pavel needs to die. ascetic peeked Pavel wolf.

Everyone but Pavel, read this and tell me how you can possibly disagree.
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04-18-2012 , 01:20 PM
Seriously: ascetic has a post that says Pavel wolf and Mary Sue villa, AND THEN HE SAYS THAT HE WON'T GIVE INFO ABOUT WHAT PEEK WAS FIRST. Meaning those are his two peeks.

He then talks repeatedly about wanting to get Pavel lynched.

Pavel is a wolf.

Pavel is a wolf.

Pavel is a wolf.
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04-18-2012 , 01:21 PM
this is where i'm at right now:

atakpride

and i think the order should be atakpride -> shiitake -> godkata -> [atakpup by POE]
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04-18-2012 , 01:21 PM
Also, as if we needed more evidence about his other peek, he puts Mary Sure above me (SHC) in his list of villagers.
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04-18-2012 , 01:22 PM
quoth calm ye down

ive thought about it and thought about it and read it and read it, and i am pretty sure that your mother is the second peek.

you kinda missed 2 key posts there
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04-18-2012 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Quoth
I don't think those posts show that you are clearly not a peek.

Maybe I'm stupid or something. Can you walk me through it again, and also explain away the Pavel=wolf posts that godkata quoted from d2 in #1080?
he said he didnt peek me on n1. he had me as a villager on d1 right off the bat. literally page 1 he had me as a villa. he made a bad read and hardpushed me yesterday, but he clearly stated that he didnt peek me and then later stated that I could be a "fakepeek" when he talked about real peeks in other places. he got way to fancy and tried to leave 3 "peeks" and freeroll a wolf. he unfortuantely got a villager through his fps and now we are having to deal with the backlash. its ridiculous to play seer like this. its also ridiculous to draft a seer who is so ****ing terrible that hes going to fps his peeks. everyone here is to blame.

I mean maybe I am just seeing that I am not the peek since I know I am a villager and CANNOT possibly be a peek, but it seems like its right there in the open. he should have just hardclaimed yesterday and saved the mother at lynch and then we couldve lynched wolfkata and moved on.
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04-18-2012 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mary Sue
this is where i'm at right now:

atakpride

and i think the order should be atakpride -> shiitake -> godkata -> [atakpup by POE]
You cannot be serious.

on d1, ascetic says he won't be leaving his n0 peek until d2

on d2, ascetic goes out of his way to say that he will be leaving his two peeks in a later post and that he will be making them clear so everyone can find them.

He then expressly says that Pavel wolf and Mary Sue villa are his peeks.

He then repeatedly expresses the desire to lynch Pavel but says that he understands that it won't happen since other people would have to break seer cover to do it.

Pavel was peeked wolf.
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04-18-2012 , 01:24 PM
however we resolve this, it is really friggin stupid that our seer tried to FPS and leave 3 peeks
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04-18-2012 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mary Sue
quoth calm ye down

ive thought about it and thought about it and read it and read it, and i am pretty sure that your mother is the second peek.

you kinda missed 2 key posts there
Absolutely not. He talks about his two peeks in a post where he mentions both Pavel and you, and does not mention your mother at all.

Pavel is ascetic's wolf peek, and Pavel needs to be lynched.
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04-18-2012 , 01:24 PM
im really confused and i hate that i dont have more time to spend on this game today.

im going to park my vote with godkata based on eod last night. it just looks so much like a save and at the same time a securing of a possible peeked villa.

godkata
i hope you guys figure it out tonight. sorry i cant be there.
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04-18-2012 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Quoth
You cannot be serious.

on d1, ascetic says he won't be leaving his n0 peek until d2

on d2, ascetic goes out of his way to say that he will be leaving his two peeks in a later post and that he will be making them clear so everyone can find them.

He then expressly says that Pavel wolf and Mary Sue villa are his peeks.

He then repeatedly expresses the desire to lynch Pavel but says that he understands that it won't happen since other people would have to break seer cover to do it.

Pavel was peeked wolf.
That was my first reaction, but keep reading his posts.

Read every single one of his d2 posts in chronological order.
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04-18-2012 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ascetic acid
Pavel is a wolf looking for another mislynch, don't let him get it.
Without being too detailed, the nk also implies that there is a great chance he is a wolf. The eod was bad too. Im so certain that he can be one of my fakepeeks.
which brings me to next player: Mary Sue villager.
Mary sue is spewed villager by parvel on d1 so if im right about parvel, im right about sue. Furthermore she is being villa for multiple reasons: sharing reads/updating reads often/made ppl aware that her vote was on EAO after wrong votecount etc etc etc

I wont give info about what peek was first since it can help wolves determine if im seer or not.
Theese assumptions makes me think our mother is villager since parlev is pushing her.

And thats how its done
I stand corrected about him not mentioning your mother in this post.

But given the underlined sentence, THERE IS NO WAY THAT YOUR MOTHER IS ONE OF HIS PEEKS. He makes the causality clear.
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04-18-2012 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ascetic acid
I think the "rand to be villager" is an innocent mistake. The rest of the conversation should incriminate atakpup.
I'm not a wolf and I won't let you guys spoil this potentially great moment of me catching a wolf 45 minutes into d1.
Villagelean on Pavel for his entry though

this is post 35 in the ****ing thread. what kind of clown seer would ever peek a wolf and give him a village lean on page 1? i'm not buying that anyone would think our captain made someone that dumb the seer.
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04-18-2012 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mary Sue
That was my first reaction, but keep reading his posts.

Read every single one of his d2 posts in chronological order.
No, you. I give up. I'm going to try and find the two wolves other than Pavel.
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04-18-2012 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Pavel Datsyuk
this is post 35 in the ****ing thread. what kind of clown seer would ever peek a wolf and give him a village lean on page 1? i'm not buying that anyone would think our captain made someone that dumb the seer.
It's plausible if he always intended to explicitly state that he was not going to be leaving his n0 peek until d2.
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04-18-2012 , 01:28 PM
Quoth, breath in, breath out.

Read his d2 posts in chronological order then come back. Stop trying to argue about it until you've seen my perspective.
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04-18-2012 , 01:28 PM
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Theese assumptions makes me think our mother is villager since parlev is pushing her.
There is no way that your mother villager is one of his peeks. None.
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04-18-2012 , 01:28 PM
quoth, whats your plan if you lynch me and I flip villa? we then need every villager to vote only wolves for 3 straight days. this seems practically impossible. has any village ever won a f7 mustlynch with 0 peeked players still alive?
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04-18-2012 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mary Sue
Quoth, breath in, breath out.

Read his d2 posts in chronological order then come back. Stop trying to argue about it until you've seen my perspective.
Point me to specific posts, and respond to the points I've been making, please.
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