only thing that changes is that Caedus has posted a bit more than I said he had.

the thing i noticed as that the people on flytrap might all be wolves.

binkles get off flytrap plz

So we're in agreement that Andrew should go right? Though we shouldn't maj it. He's supposed to be in the thread in 45 mins or so. I actually might NOT be around for EOD, but I'm going to stay as late as I can.

if andrew doesn't show up and contribute im moving off slighted onto him. if cadeus doesn't give his YG tell i wouldn't hate the vig for taking a shot at him.

GOD DAMNIT PEOPLE! ****ing post. This is dumb. We can't play this game if people aren't posting.

wut u want to talk about

I want people to post reads, thoughts, comments, lolcats, ****ing something.

As soon as I said that though, I have to head out. EOD is 2.5 hours right? I might be back. I might be able to get here from my phone to at least get a read and make sure my vote is right.

Is there a mobile app for 2+2? Or just easier to go in through the browser?

Village
Montecore
NlSoldier
Crmccarty
Younguns87

Comeasur
Caedus

Unsure
Vaya
Flytrap

Wolf
Andrewgreve
Slighted
Captain Binkles

i dont think my top 4 villagers should ever be lynched. we have to trust they are villagers or weve lost already

i decided that binkles was defending me because he didnt want me to pressure him

it worked till now.

i think flytrap is either the miller or the wolf sk

ive never had a problem just using the browser on iphone. ive heard ppl talk of an app tho.

Very villagy thought process insofar as a wolf would never think of the 15min thing there, and would just equivocate the read in a much sloppier fashion. This comes later, but the reason early d1 I thought he might be villa was they way he stuck to his guns on his opinion about it, even though I strongly disagreed with him.

This is admittedly thin, but: if binks and comeasur were wolves together, then binks would probably know that comeasur was new to POG, and would therefore also know that it would be impossible for uaw to have any history with comeasur. I think it would be very hard for someone with that knowledg to make this post.

I like that last thought. Something I hadn't considered. Good catch.

Alright I'm back. kinda, Wednesday's are busy days and HW days so I won't be here for long

If I get shot by the vig before SLighted or Caedus then I will be pissed

Speaking of Caedus, why is he so clear?

If flytrap is in fact the miller than he jumps down to being a wolf imo

The problem with this line of thinking is that two villagers don't have to die tonight if fly is the wolf vig and not the miller. He could also be the wolf seer, in which case not killing him gives the wolves an extra chance to peek the village vig.

This is skipping ahead a bit, but contrast fly and binks's lack of knowledge regarding whether uaw and comeasur could possibly have history to caedus's opinion that fly should have known that uaw and comeasur couldn't possibly have any history due to comeasur being new to POG.

Why would he assume that fly should know that comeasur was new to POG? Comeasur hadn't posted itt when uaw made his vote and fly commented on it. Is it possible that caedus is so sure that comeasur is new because they are wolves together and had already discussed it?

I guess he could have remembered comeasur from the signup thread, but it's something to think about.

I don't understand the underlined.

I think Caedus was peeked villa but his lack of participation tonight is concerning.

we have differing opinions on who Homer peeked.

I don't think Homer would put an unpeeked villager in front of his peeked villager when saying "THe only 2 solid villa leans are vaya and caedus"

hmm i did not think about it like this. that sucks big time. idk what to do. these are the situations where i normally rely on the captain.

Andrew

binkles re-read

I've absolutely hated this post since I reread on day 2 but didn't want to say anything yet. It might just be but it looks like you're leaving a (fairly obvious) code for NLS with your list. Whether you 2 are w/w and were planning a mason claim at some point or you were planning a fake seer claim at some point, it looks horrible for you. I'll keep an eye out for anything similar on d2, but it's really really strange to me. If you flip wolf, NLS is also a wolf.

You seem genuinely excited and ready to interact with other players here, which gives you some villa points.

Talking to crm who we know is clear, so he votes someone who hasn't posted yet.

Not really too much to comment on from day 1. You looked like you were putting in a lot of work and interacting well, but it doesnt come across as having a ton of useful content.

---end of day 1---

Early day 2 you analyze Anarchist's posts, but again not too much that comes out of that. Later on, you have some interaction with NLS regarding what would have happened if him and Anarchist were w/w. All your interactions with NLS make me think that you guys are going to flip the same, now we just have to figure out what it's going to be.

Sponging the wagons that I suggested but going on the other wagon. Looks good for you if you stay on Andrew and he flips wolf.

Harping on NLS/Anarchist again. If NLS flips wolf, you're going to try to use this as a way to clear yourself saying that you'd never post stuff like this if you were w/w with him. Just seems like you're going for some sort of levelling every time you bring up this subject.

This is a weird string of posts. If you're a villager you shouldn't have to reiterate that you're a villager this much. That first one is mega-wolfy. The 2nd one not so much because the wagons were Andrew/UAW so it looks ok if Andrew is a wolf.

I like this for the most part, but it's not impossible for a wolf to make this post.

Off of Andrew without giving a reason...

And I don't really like the reason he ends up giving. Doesn't seem like a great reason to switch off of Andrew when Andrew was only being more wolfy in the thread.

Even posts about Andrew looking bad, but is off his wagon. If Andrew is a power wolf, binkles is almost definitely a wolf for his movement here.

---end of day 2---

Talking about POE when we're a mislynch/bad vig shot away from losing the game and before we have any 100% cleared villagers (before crm's claim). Doing that just sounds like you're trying to make the village feel more at ease about the situation when we really need to do a ton of work today to have a chance. Not sure if you do that a lot or what, but it just stinks to me. Also I think VMF is a clear villager if you're a wolf. You might think that I could say the same for NLS if not for that weird first post I quoted and the fact that when you've defended him, you've given reasons and when you've defended VMF you haven't.

Your re-read of Andrew was ok... not a ton of insightful comments but you come to the conclusion that he's a wolf.

Again you give some stuff about VMF but it's not very full of content, it's the same reasoning you've given all game. Also don't like you leaving the thread while sponging someone elses work when you repeatedly said you were going to solve the game in this sequence of posts.

Really hate your angry rant post and I hope you're not actually stressing yourself out over all of this.. it's just a game. Also I'm not going to be surprised if that turns out to be fake, but don't get angry at me about that, I'm just playing the game.

I still dislike that you're not using your own work to try to push a wagon when you said you would be in charge today.

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I really really want to hear your reply to me here. I'm trying not to base everything off of one silly post that might just be coincidental, so please let me know if you think I've got blinders on or what. I'm trying not to go insane re-reading this thread, I just don't want to get played by you or anyone else.

I still think Andrew is a better lynch than binkles today. While binkles gives us a lot more info as to the wolf team, I think Andrew is way more likely to be a wolf and we need the sure thing at this point of the game. Also if we lynch binkles and he doesn't flip wolf, I don't think we have a chance to win the game.

Going to slow down on the rereads for a bit and catch up with the thread.

the underlined isnt true.. fly said he would shut up as a wolf.. he has the perfect history to set us up though if he is a wolf.. he shut up in hp4 as a wolf and he posted 100 times as a villa the last time. ofcourse he's gonna put in work this time as a wolf because it is set up PERFECTLY.. plus he only has to buy a single day most likely..

holy **** comsur that is an epic find. since we know who the masons are and binkles isn't one of them he must be a wolf?

comeasur,

nice post. Can you explain more about why you think if binks is a wolf then vmf is villa?

lol and im getting **** for noticing that my name was completely clearly written in a peek like manner..