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Slighted is making sense on his reasoning with voting and YG's logic doesnt agree with mine. I know I have very limited exp with him but I expect to basically agree on things like this with him always

whats the case on UAW?

caedus

sexiness of this vote will be determined shortly

lol that might be the first time i've seen <2nd wagon> make a "whats the case on <lead wagon>" post. not sure what to make of it

Ill just work on the MQ tonight since it will be mostly useless without looking over anarch/mac stuff in depth. When I dont have time to be in depth I dont trust myself enough to do anything well.

can you rephrase that please andrew i dont get what you are saying

It isnt bad to post details of a vote or wolfy. having a lop sided wagon has as much info as a super close.

Andrew, just reread UAW on your own. Someone quoted all his posts on the last page. There aren't that many, it shouldn't be very hard. Can you give us some reads before EOD?

Hadnt noticed I was 2nd wagon. My games with UAW he has been fairly random in the early days. I dont think I have ever seen his villa game.

i have no clue about YGs role atm

only thing i have to go on is that ppl who try to get me lynched are more often villagers than wolves

It doesn't have as much info if there's a runaway wagon, especially if votes are thrown around late. You can go back and analyze how the wagons went down and how the late day voting happened to see if someone was being saved which is really huge in this game since there's a wolf vig and wolf seer.

lol

YG have you commented much on the lead wagons? Sorry if you have

Right so is YG wolfy for this? This is commentary-y

Lol yeah, I'm unsure too

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"Ill just work on the MQ tonight since it will be mostly useless without looking over anarch/mac stuff in depth. When I dont have time to be in depth I dont trust myself enough to do anything well. "

So you're saying that you're not gonna give reads today?

#813

#	Player	votes for
6	UAW710	andrewgreve
4	andrewgreve
1	BLS	Gadarene
1	Caedus	Slighted
1	Gadarene	andrewgreve
1	Slighted	UAW710
0	27allin/younguns	Caedus
0	captainbinkles	andrewgreve
0	comeasur
0	crmcarty	andrewgreve
0	flytrap	UAW710
0	homernoonjr	BLS
0	Montecore	UAW710
0	NLSoldier	UAW710
0	Rebonk/variance	UAW710
0	VayaConDios	UAW710

EOD in :52

Maybe our definitions are different but seeing why a wagon gains traction super fast, and why a wagon stops after roles are revealed is very useful. If every player votes the same person, It would be pretty tough to explain a vote as a wolf, as a villager you would have a pretty good explanation. How often do villas vote runaway wagons because everyone else does? At worse it is because of a specific person, convincing them. When that persons role has become clear a runaway wagon has plenty of info based on interactions.

wagonomics might suffer with runaway votes, but IMO wagonomics is the easiest thing for the wolves to manipulate. Only combined with interactions leading to the votes does wagon analysis become useful. You have that regardless of the spread.

the problem with multiple wagons(over2) is that the topic of focus for interactions becomes varied and more difficult to look at for each individual

No I haven't said much on them,

Earlier I said I was gonna wait for UAW's response, it was less than satisfing and the fact that he isn't showing up makes it worse, so he's a fine lynch.

Andrew I think is slightly wolfy, but I think he can clear himself later if that makes sense, I don't think he's a good lynch today. I would much prefer UAW over him

If uaw flips PR wolf andrew vanilla wolf then comeasur deserves a reread imo

lol thats how i interpreted it to thats why i told him to rephrase

I dont get it. Im waiting for a reply to my explanation.

To expound on this, notice how he knows that uaw is the lead wagon but then claims not to know that he's second

Is it because I'm not voting, Vaya? I unvoted not long ago because we were 2 away from maj and I didn't want day to end early. I fully expect to put my vote on UAW closer to EOD.

Why would I reply when I've already said I agree to disagree. I believe what you and slighted are wrong, but it doesn't really matter and is not gonna help solve anything

Also what does that say about the people on the off-wagons, Vaya? That's definitely not a villa thing to do right now.

I'm gonna re-read UAW and look at everything he's said in the context of the thread. I thought his initial pop-in and vote was wolfy, but I thought his reads list was generally very good.

Andrew is basically in anti-spew right now, he's commenting on wagonomics and why he can make reads 'later'.

Because you unvoted off of uaw, putting them closer together