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12-03-2012 , 06:58 PM
Why Crossnerd is not the wolf:

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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
hardcoreufo
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
Aston
Rapid
Gatito


TQA
Monte
Globe
Boo


Annie
LKJ
Hardcore


Felix
TBob
I don't think she puts REM as 2nd villa when he's possibly peeked & in all liklihood going down early regardless.

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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
Notes on TQA: votes globe in second post, no explanation, asks gatito for an explanation for his vote after tqa just voted with no explanation too, votes gatito after he explains his vote, says gatito is 'trying to seem villagery', says hardcore's post seem villagery, calls out nonposters, says either aston is a wolf or 1-2 people interrogating her are wolves #159, votes aston, TQA says monte least liekylt o be a wolf, says aston/globe/gatito are wolves with maybe rapideye instead of aston, votes aston,

Based on my last note on you, you seem to be less sure of aston being a wolf than globe/gatito bc you said you might switch out REM for aston, which implies you are least sure about your aston read of the three.

Now you vote aston over globe or gatito.

You are going for mislynches.

TheQuietAnarchist

Book it.
I trust she believed this case when she made it (ie. wasn't lying about misunderstanding TQAs post). So if you think she bussing, then you have to recognize she was planning on pushing TQA for this. Also don't think she would decide to bus when REM is likely going down early (already had wagon on him) & possibly peeked. Also the read looks natural because she had TQA up near the top of her list earlier.

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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
TQA isn't voting his strongest wolf reads, he's voting the most viable wagons.

TQA is likely a wolf.
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
You're right, sorry, I misread it.

unvote

You're back to good again

But prob not wrt the aston vote.

(It should be noted that you were pushing aston too, and for all the people who said all the aston pushers were on my wolf list, I had you near the top of my reads list, lolhardcoreimo)
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
in what way have I been insincere/dishonest? bc I quickly typed in aston instead of annie in one of my notes? I've said multiple times now my read on you has nothing to do with aston.

The next series of posts come in like a span of 30-40 minutes. Its obvious she is just reading through the thread and having all these thoughts, yes even some contridictary, come to her. It's very difficult for wolves to fake this stuff.
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
I'm clearing

mrgatito- consistent, supported a rapideye wagon all of d1, had his vote on rem at eod

monte- made a multiquote on rem (post #291) when the wolves could hardly afford it, had his vote on rem at eod

lkj- if he's a wolf, he has chosen a line that makes it impossible for him to win, he is tunneling like a clown and will have to take the blame should i ever be lynched bc he has been tunneling on me the entire game, literally every single day, he's suiciding if he's the last wolf


that leaves:

hardcore and boo

hardcore wolf: his wolf read on globe was super thin, I have this in my notes about it: says globe should be more hesitant to have a villagery read on him bc globe knows he is a capable wolf. lolwat? that was your reason?

boo wolf: very clearly switched off the wolf wagon at an extremely critical time with no real explanation other than trying to start up a cfd on aston, another villager, and certainly a viable candidate for mislynch that day


REM -> Boo -> hardcoreUFO IMO
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
Bc you've never been aggressive and mean when someone tunnels you for 3 days straight and refuses to take off their horrible blinders

if LKJ is a wolf, good job buddy. you've successfully tilted the **** out of me
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
Based on both d1 and d2 wagons, there is no possible way I can conceive of gatito ever being a wolf unless all 5 people on bumhunt before REM majed it were also villagers. I find that hard to swallow.
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
and I actually would be surprised if hardcore and REM just blatantly planned the maj with their votes back to back, so I'm back to taking hardcore off the table.

That leaves Boo as my top candidate. LKJ my second candidate, although if he is wolfing, he is taking the most bizarre line ever, and Montecore third as a dark horse wolf who bussed REM.
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
This is Monte's wagon analysis from D1.

Rereading this now, I think this looks super sketch.
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
This is how the votes fell yesterday













(lol, wow monte ^^^, that was your fault)



































K, I've reevaluated things on this reread. I think Monte is indeed the last wolf. Final answer.
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
It looks like the wolves were giving up REM and getting their votes on him early yesterday for credit.

Monte's change from REM to bumhunt at the time he did it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever aside from the perceived momentum that wagon was getting and teh possibility to get one more mislynch before giving up REM.

Book this imo
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
There's also no way LKJ tried to start up on aston again and TQA just jumped on it immediately if they are both wolves.

So LKJ is out, hardcore is out, gatito is out

that leaves Boo and Monte


Monte's day yesterday looks horrendous now in my eyes.
It all has a natural flow you can see how she works from point A to point B. I skipped a number of posts when quoting so its best just to click through and read.
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12-03-2012 , 06:59 PM
Votes from post 1462 to post 1601
Night in 02:00:56

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VotesLynchVoters
2 Crossnerd LKJ (28), hardcoreUFO (28)
1 Montecore Boo Radley (5)
2 no lynch Crossnerd (39), MrGatito (5)
1 not voting Montecore (30)
  
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12-03-2012 , 07:00 PM
I'm gonna be out for a few hours. I strongly suggest no lynching.
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12-03-2012 , 07:03 PM
THANK you gatito. omfg FINALLY
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12-03-2012 , 07:03 PM
Gatito, that first reads list was midday d1. The wolves didn't kill Annie that night. Her putting REM second in that list isn't clearing at all, since they obviously were far from convinced that Annie was the seer.
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12-03-2012 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
THANK you gatito. omfg FINALLY
Yes, I think you owe him a Christmas card and a badge that says "Honorary Fourth Wolf."
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12-03-2012 , 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
Gatito, that first reads list was midday d1. The wolves didn't kill Annie that night. Her putting REM second in that list isn't clearing at all, since they obviously were far from convinced that Annie was the seer.
and yet, you've been saying all game the wolves were certain annie was the seer d2.

How do you get from the above bolded to the next part? what logic are you using?
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12-03-2012 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
Yes, I think you owe him a Christmas card and a badge that says "Honorary Fourth Wolf."
it's honestly frightening to me that you're a lawyer and are this bad at interpreting evidence
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12-03-2012 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
and yet, you've been saying all game the wolves were certain annie was the seer d2.

How do you get from the above bolded to the next part? what logic are you using?
Well I've answered this before at least once, but for you I'm happy to answer it again:

They POE'd it down to two people, Annie and DWetzel. If they can't confidently believe that it's Annie, then DWetzel is the one to kill first since it doesn't condemn one of the wolves to a d2 lynch. Then they kill him, he flips vanillager, and they proceed to pounce on the first chance to MAJ a mislynch and sacrifice REM since he was already done for anyway.
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12-03-2012 , 07:09 PM
alright i'm back

lkj, how does gatito benefit from defending cross like this? securing a mislynch is orders of magnitude more important than making a "good read" on a villager were he a wolf
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12-03-2012 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
it's honestly frightening to me that you're a lawyer and are this bad at interpreting evidence
It's gotta be killing you that I continue to refuse to take your bait to turn this into some weird personal emo battle.
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12-03-2012 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
It's gotta be killing you that I continue to refuse to take your bait to turn this into some weird personal emo battle.
you do manage to draw a lot of ire from the various, let's say, stronger personality'd players
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12-03-2012 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Montecore
alright i'm back

lkj, how does gatito benefit from defending cross like this? securing a mislynch is orders of magnitude more important than making a "good read" on a villager were he a wolf
He doesn't benefit from it. I believe more strongly than ever after this last run of posts that he's a villager.
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12-03-2012 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
He doesn't benefit from it. I believe more strongly than ever after this last run of posts that he's a villager.
so if it's not cross than it's me? final answer?

i hope it's cross then
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12-03-2012 , 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
He doesn't benefit from it. I believe more strongly than ever after this last run of posts that he's a villager.
also, what about when I could have maj'd her with no accountability but didn't?

same logic applied, or no?
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12-03-2012 , 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
It's gotta be killing you that I continue to refuse to take your bait to turn this into some weird personal emo battle.
its killing me that youre wrong and wont reconsider, thats for sure. i mean, really.. this many game days and im your number one lynch the entire time? i hope some day to return the favor to you and see how well you take it
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12-03-2012 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Montecore
so if it's not cross than it's me? final answer?

i hope it's cross then
Getting closer to final answer, yeah.

Thankfully my read of Cross being the wolf feels stronger right now than it did 24 hours ago. All of this today just looks like she can see that she came up short and is now lateraling the ball around the field and trying to find a player that has an opening that probably isn't there.
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12-03-2012 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
its killing me that youre wrong and wont reconsider, thats for sure. i mean, really.. this many game days and im your number one lynch the entire time? i hope some day to return the favor to you and see how well you take it
Okay, well in that future game I'll quote this post and clear myself. Fun times.
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12-03-2012 , 07:18 PM
LOL LKJ

if you aren't the last wolf, i'll honestly pray for your soul tonight, you are so misguided its sad
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12-03-2012 , 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
Getting closer to final answer, yeah.

Thankfully my read of Cross being the wolf feels stronger right now than it did 24 hours ago. All of this today just looks like she can see that she came up short and is now lateraling the ball around the field and trying to find a player that has an opening that probably isn't there.
It's just weird to me that you won't clear me for doing exactly the same thing gatito did, which you cleared him for

Hopefully we won't have to worry about it, but I have a nagging feeling we might

I am leaning towards voting no lynch
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12-03-2012 , 07:19 PM
THIS IS NOT HOW I WOULD BE PLAYING AS THE LAST WOLF
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12-03-2012 , 07:19 PM
montecore doing the least amount of solving besides me IMO.
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12-03-2012 , 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
LOL LKJ

if you aren't the last wolf, i'll honestly pray for your soul tonight, you are so misguided its sad
cross,

if I vote no lynch, will you promise to do a comprehensive LKJ reread with me tomorrow, assuming all three of us are alive?

and if not, will you put aside all the other stuff and put in work that the thread suggests?
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12-03-2012 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Boo Radley
montecore doing the least amount of solving besides me IMO.
less than lkj even?
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12-03-2012 , 07:21 PM
sure monte, whatever
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