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Why is anyone even considering this? Murska and Foolishness can't both be cops so it's certain that there's only two possible, unless you're speculating that there's a third cop out there.

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09-11-2013 , 03:20 PM

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Verbal32

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Originally Posted by Athexx

I believe this. But unlike yesterday, I'm willing to let the mafia sort out the claims now.

I do wish you hadn't viewed Foolishness. That's rather annoying.

He played it super-safe. Can't say I blame him.

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09-11-2013 , 03:20 PM

#2553

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Originally Posted by traz

Very good chance foolish is a power role and needs to die. I'm open to the idea of lynching outside the claims but the chance,o of him being the vig is probably too high.

I'm sorry, but are you me from one day in the past?

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09-11-2013 , 03:20 PM

#2554

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Originally Posted by AngryPidgeon

If Fool is the Vig, why didn't he shoot last night?

Didn't 2 people die? Honest question, not tongue in cheek. What happened yesterday if mafia vig didn't shoot?

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09-11-2013 , 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Athexx

I'm sorry, but are you me from one day in the past?

Kinda, but I'm also ME from one day in the past, cause i said the same things

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09-11-2013 , 03:21 PM

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The flavor strongly indicated that Anstonio was shot and MNOWAX died because he committed suicide. (lover death)

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09-11-2013 , 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Athexx

Why is anyone even considering this? Murska and Foolishness can't both be cops so it's certain that there's only two possible, unless you're speculating that there's a third cop out there.

With the potential of vetted townies, why are you even considering lynching outside the claims?

Don't let uncertainty linger - we solve the problem today.

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09-11-2013 , 03:22 PM

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Or MNOWAX was shot, and Anstionio died, I cant remember which was which.

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09-11-2013 , 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Murska

AP: Assume that you are 90% certain Foolishness is scum. Explain to me why you would assume, in yesterday's situation, that Mango is town?

I did in fact think Mango was town, which was why I was so vocally against lynching him yesterday.

I still think I'm right about Foolishness though, I just underestimated how willing he was to get cred by bussing. I thought he was just trying to survive one night.

The only point in favor of Foolishness that I can see is that if Foolishness is mafia, I was expecting to have gotten killed in the night. I was expecting that if I was right, the mafia would kill me assuming that I was actually a cop and was trying to discredit Foolishness without counterclaiming him directly.

However that still might have happened, if BloodFox is the mafia vig and was blocked.

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09-11-2013 , 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Verbal32

With the potential of vetted townies, why are you even considering lynching outside the claims?

Don't let uncertainty linger - we solve the problem today.

Because DGB is revealing an action that heavily implicated bloodfox..
And lynching BloodFox means we do not accidentally lynch a claimed PR.
And BloodFox was/is pretty much going to get lynched regardless.
And BloodFox flip + night time sheds light on the Cop situation.

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09-11-2013 , 03:24 PM

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Ok right right, lovers. Its hard for me to read the big posts on my phone.

I get it now. Blood fox was role blocked right? So he is looking like the vig i guess?

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09-11-2013 , 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by traz

Kinda, but I'm also ME from one day in the past, cause i said the same things

True, but less vocally than you have been today, and I'm now less interested in lynching Foolishness instead, so it feels like we swapped positions.

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09-11-2013 , 03:25 PM

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Ok looks like i am up to speed tyty

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09-11-2013 , 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by traz

Ok right right, lovers. Its hard for me to read the big posts on my phone.

I get it now. Blood fox was role blocked right? So he is looking like the vig i guess?

Yes. DGB is claiming to have targeted Fank N1, Me N2, and Blood Fox last night.

The apparent maf vig kill is missing in the write up.

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09-11-2013 , 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Athexx

Good point. I'd say we can't assume mafia was good enough to see that, though. They did walk straight into Wax's little D1 trap, so anything is possible....heh.

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09-11-2013 , 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Athexx

True, but less vocally than you have been today, and I'm now less interested in lynching Foolishness instead, so it feels like we swapped positions.

I was incredibly vocal yesterday and had several back-and-forths with mastin and dgb, so i dunno what you're talking about.

As for lynching foolish or blood fox today...I'm not sure I really care. Blood fox being role blocked points heavily to him being vig but I think foolish is probably a power role too.

Lynch mastin after and win the game Imo.

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09-11-2013 , 03:27 PM

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I doubt Foolish is wolf with Blood because Foolish had the chance to either save Blood from lynch or use it to max advantage by claiming to spy Blood as wolf. Saving Blood makes the most sense, since a big part of fakeclaim is use it to save other wolves. So I doubt they are wolf pals.

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09-11-2013 , 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AngryPidgeon

I strongly disagree that BloodFox's flip would shed light on the Cop situation. Please explain.

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09-11-2013 , 03:29 PM

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To be clear, i am more certain the foolish is mafia than bloodfox. But if we want to lynch outside of the claims then blood fox is fine.

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09-11-2013 , 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Nana7

If Foolish is scum then he claimed to target me because I was promising all sorts of pain and death if he didn't.

And claiming an inno on buddy-fox would look double plus bad today if he had strong reason to believe that MAF VIG BLOOD FOX WAS ROLEBLOCKED.

PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE UP AND DRINK SOME COFFEE.

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09-11-2013 , 03:32 PM

#2571

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Originally Posted by Nana7

Have you considered that perhaps he simply didn't think of that angle?

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09-11-2013 , 03:33 PM

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Gosh its like.

HUH OUR VIG KILL IS MISSING FROM THE WRITE UP.

BETTER DEFEND THAT GUY WITH A FAKE INNO.

And why on EARTH would Fool expect a town Doctor to target anyone other than HIMSELF???

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09-11-2013 , 03:36 PM

#2573

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Originally Posted by AngryPidgeon

I think you and I are on the same page, but I don't see any link to Foolish based on the alignment of BloodFox.

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09-11-2013 , 03:40 PM

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^ Thats my point.

Im saying that If Fool is scum with Blood Fox then Fool would _know_ Blood's Vig kill was missing. And since Fool has no reason to believe a Doctor would save anyone other than Fool for his claim, the obvious conclusion is that Fox got RB'd.

Hell the setup even has pretty parity to it. Town 3x Vig. Maf (3x?) vig. Maf blocker.... Town blocker.

I dont see why Nana is trying to clear that possible team when it looks VERY likely that both are guilty.

Its not like Fool would look at the building BF pressure and the potential RB guily on him and see a need to throw all his credit away defending it aggressively.