1) Her exchange with MB d1 does not look like w/w (IMO)

2) LKJ attempted to snipe her d1 when a wolf (MB) was in danger, and both LKJ and MB flipped wolf. A Cross/LKJ/MB wolf team doesn't make a ton of sense when you go back and read that EOD.

3) She was the first one to call out MB and hard push him, although she backed off when it looked like starz was the lock lynch d1.

Like if she's the last wolf here then they developed a plan to throw her clear because she wasn't going to be able to play much. If so, we might just be ****ed either way, because if she can't play much she's not going to be around as much as we need to figure this out. But of the four in the POE, she's the most clear in my opinion.

We only have two lynches left, none of the four in the POE get a pass.

But you have two days to prove yourself, I'm never voting until we are close to actual EOD tomorrow.

I want a pass

All the villa points I earned this game must be enough to purchase a pass.

Well I didn't ignore anything you did today, in point of fact.

And I really do think it almost has to be Kruze at this point, although I now expect him to throw a fit because I'm saying this. Like, he makes the most sense of out anyone. If it's you we're really screwed, we're in slightly better shape if it's crossnerd or starrazz.

I just have a hard time seeing this being starz virgin wolf effort (again, why do the fake seer thing? He was under zero pressure), and Crossnerd doesn't make much sense for reasons I've already said a couple of times.

I dont even remember what my d1 was like but I know it was villagery cuz im villa

Um, no.

Your villa points are basically for tone, not for leading the wagon on a wolf or anything like that. We have four in the POE and only two lynches to burn now because of the mod kill (thanks well named!). Nobody gets a pass, at least not from me.

KruZe, I can't get on your side from what I've read:

Crossnerd pushed monkey day 1 and fought with LKJ. LKJ and Monkey were both voting her near eod. Monkey during the CFD asked noah why not Cross. LKJ was chillin on starazz until monkey caught up tied 4-4-4 and then tried to snipe Crossnerd. On day 2 lkj tried again to lynch crossnerd (I believe annies claim more than jims). Crossnerd came in and explained LKJ should be defending her from hardcore, called him a wolf, and eventually voted him with a qualifier that she'd have preferred hardcore.


Starazz sniped monkey at 4-4-4 wagons iirc, lkj was using starazz flipping villager to push me and crossnerd (does not make sense if starazz is a wolf), switched to starazz at eod 1, remained on starazz when he posted the video despite villagers yelling to get off, monkey asked wtf when starazz sniped him and said he hadn't even mentioned him yet.



Both of them have multiple portions of spew and wagonomics pointing in their favor. The only thing you have is being aggro at everyone early. I need you to convince me why I need to ignore all of these things if you're a villager.

Well I mean binkles gets a pass but that's because I'm not a flaming moron.

Alright sgt

Like, clearly I agree with you with both of them not making sense, I'm just saying in the event that something crazy happened I need you to not just sigh vote me at f4 because I'm me

I never snap vote.

But you are you and I can hardly ignore that.

Besides, we have no way of knowing which of us (bankles or me) gets eaten tonight. Who does get chomped should provide some information as well, assuming we aren't in 100% agreement about the lynch order.

Potential explanations for each of them being a wolf:

Crossnerd, knowing she wasn't going to be around and had a small shelf life, just came at monkey and lkj in an effort to make them look good when she died. Her posting has fallen off a cliff, her tone is more resigned since day 2, and apart from the monkey/lkj spats she really hasn't done anything.


Starazz, as a first time wolf, sniped monkey over crossnerd because he was frozen at all the yelling going on at eod, lkj was bussing him, and he spazzed out hard for an unknown reason.



Second one seems rather unlikely :\
first one is plausible, but also unlikely

As a personal opinion of how something would go down, I feel like if cross were a wolf she'd be subtly trolling me more about defending her for so long

Look back where I left seer cover...I broke up the crossnerd lynch that day and now its coming back to bite me on the ass...why would I do that as a wolf? Surly you can see my seer cover was genuine villa work

Like I can see a case for it being Crossnerd SPECIFICALLY as a plan because she was going to be so AFK. It just happened to work in reverse - instead of her throwing them clear, they threw her clear.

It's not outside the realm of possibility. It at least makes more sense than this being starz first wolf game.

can someone please post a death chart?

Which day?

the day before the MAJ on annie i think

D2 then. I'll take a look, but off the top of my head I don't remember you being a key player in breaking up that lynch.

Also deaths:

D1 Lynch - MB (wolf)
N1 Kill - Vix (villa)
D2 Lynch - LKJ (wolf)
N2 Kill - Noah (villa)
D3 Lynch - Annie by MAJ (villa)
N3 Kill - hardcoreUFO (seer)
N3 modkill - well named (villa)

i believe i quoted it

he claimed crossnerd villa vix villa
quoted the vix peek
and voted for hardcore

and then unclaimed a bit later and said gl crossnerd


it certainly wasnt wolfy

But was it a primary factor in the Crossnerd wagon falling apart?

I mean I was one of the ones on the nerd wagon, and I remember the primary thing that convinced me was it not making much sense for the two of you to be w/w, which was Hardcore's theory (sexy but wrong). That and LKJ just going dead silent.

i dont think it was a primary factor in it falling apart
i think lkj going into anti spew and noah/anarchist screaming to vote him was the main factor

It's time!

You know what should rule Jim out as being the wolf? The Noah NK. There was one wolf remaining who had to make that decision. I'm no great shakes at seer hunting, but I do know that you check all the of the peeks to see if that person makes sense.

Noah's two peeks were myself n1 (villa) and...LKJ n0, villa.

The last remaining wolf obviously didn't go back and check this. Outside chance they did and decided he was leveling, but it's far more likely that the last wolf just didn't go back and try to find the n0 peek, only saw the n1 reveal (when Noah dropped his me = villa peek with like 5 minutes left and said goodbye to the thread), and ate him right then and there.

I don't see wolf Jim making an error this basic.

starrazz could, but Crossnerd also makes some sense as she hasn't been paying a ton of attention.

i saw noah peeked lkj wolf day 1 right before eod, when did he peek him villa?

Oh, ****, was it wolf?

Hahaha, let me go back and check.