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Unchained is cool, telling people to die or commit suicide is not. Unchained is cool, telling people to die or commit suicide is not.

11-15-2013 , 01:27 AM
trying to put me in chains
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11-15-2013 , 01:28 AM
Unless I am taking this compleltely out of context....

nothing good can come from that kind of posting. If this was my forum those posts would be gone.

It would be nice to track down Lirva and help him get some counseling.
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11-15-2013 , 02:40 AM
This thread is better than the BBV thread
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11-15-2013 , 02:46 AM
DON'T CHAIN ME BRO
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11-15-2013 , 05:27 AM
Not sure about this chimpstare broseph.
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11-15-2013 , 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
Do you have a moment to talk about the glory of politics unchained. I promise to only wish you a long life and prosperity.
I have recently kicked the unfortunate nasty habit of lurking in Politics Unchained. My life is so much better now that I can avoid clicking on that link. But I do have one question that has been nagging at me that I could never come up with a satisfactory answer to. It's all just one big mutual masturbation society, right? Kind of a loosely organized circle-jerk?
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11-15-2013 , 07:31 AM
What did the mods say when you pm'd them?
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11-15-2013 , 08:39 AM
Seems to me having that one on ignore is a prerequisite to posting in PU.

I know I know, the retort is that that one is the only reason PU exists.
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11-15-2013 , 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
While we're on the subject, can we please add "threatening to kill your neighbor's pets is not allowed" as a sitewide rule? I don't think he'd really do it, but why the **** is that kind of thing allowed.



No one's ever articulated why. Maybe I'm being Pollyanna here, but I don't get why that ****'s acceptable at any level here, even in unchained.
Mat does not favor site-wide rules. The different forums have different styles of moderation so that everyone has a place they feel comfortable posting. So good luck with getting a site-wide rule on something as innocuous as threatening to kill a non-human trespasser in Texas. (I think that's where LirvA lives anyway.)

Also, why would you want to put restrictions on what is supposed to be an unrestricted forum? You're going to end up pushing the posters in the unrestricted forum into the other forums.
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11-15-2013 , 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
Do you have a moment to talk about the glory of politics unchained. I promise to only wish you a long life and prosperity.

Probably not helping huh?
If this is any example of what Politics Unchained is like, then I'm glad that I've never gone there! And, knowing this now, I won't waste my time by going there.

Mods - please move this thread to Politics Unchained, where it seems to clearly belong.

Thank you.

Lee
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11-15-2013 , 09:40 AM
Always remember, others may hate you, but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them, and then you destroy yourself.

-Richard Nixon
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11-15-2013 , 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
don't have a problem with it in this forum unless it becomes a detraction. elsewhere is definitely not ok.
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11-15-2013 , 10:19 AM
i still feel this way. however, lirva will be banned altogether if complaints about him continue to pour in.
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11-15-2013 , 10:29 AM
wow, I got a three day ban for suggesting a government conspiracy. Non-stop kill/suicide goading apparently is below that bar.

then I got a warning for spelling feces 'shyt'. 'bypassing the profanity filter' is worthy of a 10 point demerit but telling possible mentally unstable people to kill is OK.

Good job 2+2.
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11-15-2013 , 10:31 AM
I'm skeptical you got banned for conspiracy theorizing in PU.
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11-15-2013 , 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jcorb
wow, I got a three day ban for suggesting a government conspiracy. Non-stop kill/suicide goading apparently is below that bar.

then I got a warning for spelling feces 'shyt'. 'bypassing the profanity filter' is worthy of a 10 point demerit but telling possible mentally unstable people to kill is OK.

Good job 2+2.
You seemed to have missed the point. You won't get infracted in Politics Unchained unless you really go over the line. It is infact an alternative to the place where you did get infracted for 'suggesting government conspiracy' (the Politics forum).
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11-15-2013 , 10:40 AM
Private
Reason: Peddling conspiracy theories 04-19-2013 10:35 PM by MrWookie 50 / Expired
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11-15-2013 , 10:43 AM
I see LirvA is (was?) still being the same during my absence. Did he get himself banned again?

If so, should we start a Free LirvA thread in ATF?

Last edited by Doc T River; 11-15-2013 at 10:44 AM. Reason: I thought LirvA was a libertarian but would a libertarian tell someone how to live their life or rather end it?
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11-15-2013 , 10:43 AM
Exactly
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11-15-2013 , 10:44 AM
I mean I don't post in Politards (Unchained or otherwise) and obviously if Mat is fine with it then it's his world, but IF I were at all inclined to post in politics, I wouldn't go near PU with a ten foot pole if that sort of constant "kill yourself" posts is tolerated.

I think you can be "unchained" and still maintain a line about exactly how much abusive stuff will be tolerated. For me personally, telling people to kill themselves would be one of the few things I'd still consider out of bounds, even if other standard insults are in bounds because of the unchained nature of the forum.

This is just, like, my opinion, man.
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11-15-2013 , 10:47 AM
Wonder what the opinion of the Risk Management/Legal is on allowing posters to spew kill/suicide without taking action?

Does that move one's liability into the negligent arena?
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11-15-2013 , 11:01 AM
and that is just, me, like, asking a question, man.
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11-15-2013 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by jcorb
Private
Reason: Peddling conspiracy theories 04-19-2013 10:35 PM by MrWookie 50 / Expired
So either you're saying Wookie was moderating out of forum in PU, or that you got this infraction in Politics, not PU.
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11-15-2013 , 11:19 AM
As both a radical animal rights lover, as well as a radical LirVa supporter, despite it being thirty minutes earlier than I prefer posting due to the time lapse in coffee immersion, I will wade into this morass...

PU is not for everyone, nor will it ever be. It is that place (and jcorb, you are missing the point that Regret$ is making) that remains unfettered in theory and I hope that will always be true. Of course, I don't like everything that is said in that forum, that's exactly why it should remain unchanged. As a person who believes in freedom of speech, I must support the ideas that I don't like with an even stronger voice than I support my own.

While I haven't researched those posts from Lirva carefully, it appears that most of those are from the long forgotten thread that's been debated many times before. I could go into PU and do a major multiquote on anyone in there and make them appear to be completely without conscience. What those posts don't include are the retractions, the apologies and yes, the contrition that often follow an ill conceived blow up. (LirVa did in fact pull back on dog posts, he was very upset about his missing cat. And who wouldn't be?) And this holds true for almost everyone in there.

PU invites a posting style that may include vehement arguing, drunken ranting or strange theories, that's what it's for. If we're going to ban the LirVas of this world, simply because they become passionate at times when posting (And the truth is, he is egged on more than most) then the raison d'etre for the forum becomes moot.

Last edited by tylertwo; 11-15-2013 at 11:23 AM. Reason: tl;dr, blogging is ruining me, lol.
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11-15-2013 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by tylertwo
What those posts don't include are the retractions, the apologies and yes, the contrition that often follow an ill conceived blow up.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/34...order-1383064/
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