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12-11-2015 , 09:37 PM
So last 1.5-2 months have been pretty insane don't think I have ever ran this bad, running about 91BI below my ev which sucks.
Wasn't sure whether I should upload this tbh BBV is the home of trolls as I have heard lol

Played alot of zoom lately which has been pretty much unreal.
Also the spew has been real, but I find it hard to play A+ when I am constantly getting gapped (something I need to work on).
All volume has been played at 10nl.
Love playing poker but atm the sight of stars makes me want to break my screen into a million pieces with my pinkie.
But I am happy to say I feel like I have improved my game alot, been studying more but nothing seems to help atm.
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12-11-2015 , 09:38 PM
Let the trollin commence!
(Be nice)
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12-11-2015 , 09:59 PM
91BI under EV is not normal
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12-12-2015 , 05:05 AM
Fk me that is one disgusting graph.

I'm not gonna troll, that graph would make me cry a bit.
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12-12-2015 , 05:58 AM
Wow.. you're that brown poop line in the variance calculator that everyone prays they'll never be.. sorry OP.

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12-12-2015 , 06:10 AM
extremely unlucky
i can't stop laughing tho
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12-12-2015 , 06:27 AM
I ran about 110bi under EV in cash, and then again and few years later in turbo SNG's.

Won it all back and some but f*** that for a living
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12-12-2015 , 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Somtum2
I ran about 110bi under EV in cash, and then again and few years later in turbo SNG's.

Won it all back and some but f*** that for a living
Makes you wonder. Even solid winnings players just can't make a living from poker cause they simply aren't lucky enough. Not even lucky, just are completely unlucky all the time.

OP I'm 7Bi under EV for the last 2k hands I've played, you made me a little happier.
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12-12-2015 , 07:06 AM
Is this hold em or PLO?

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12-12-2015 , 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Lilu7
Is this hold em or PLO?

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10nl NLHE.

In all honesty the game feels rigged atm (not saying it is). I am getting sucked out on and running into the top of people ranges a ridiculous amount of times also they always seem to snap fold when I make a hand.

Ty for replies, I thought I was gona get trolled big time but guess not .

Last edited by mahsjdi; 12-12-2015 at 07:22 AM.
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12-12-2015 , 07:28 AM
change sites for a while. ...or forever.
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12-12-2015 , 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by M0N60L
change sites for a while. ...or forever.
What site I play on shouldn't affect my luck.

Put in 500 hands in zoom this morning net won:-40$ EV:+25$

I might just take a very very long break, atm if I sit down on a table my EV goes up, net won goes down.
Sorry for complaining just super bitter atm.
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12-12-2015 , 08:47 AM
The rigged feeling is natural. It's worse at the micros because donks get their money in so badly, that when they do hit their gutshot having called you down its just like 'of course...'.
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12-12-2015 , 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by mahsjdi
I am getting sucked out on and running into the top of people ranges a ridiculous amount of times also they always seem to snap fold when I make a hand.
"variance"
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12-12-2015 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Unsporting
The rigged feeling is natural. It's worse at the micros because donks get their money in so badly, that when they do hit their gutshot having called you down its just like 'of course...'.
It's not just sucking out I run into the nuts soo often its just ridiculous
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12-12-2015 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by UGiveMe$5
"variance"
Thank you for stating the obvious.
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12-12-2015 , 11:33 AM
Keep truckin', be happy its at 10nl and not 200nl or something. This is a good poker experience and it will make you 23904802398402938 x better if you get through it.
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12-12-2015 , 01:00 PM
Honestly might just quit playing. The last 15k hands have been indescribable, and seriously I don't see the point of even continuing to play micros and losing.
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12-12-2015 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by mahsjdi
Honestly might just quit playing. The last 15k hands have been indescribable, and seriously I don't see the point of even continuing to play micros and losing.
Quit and work more hours and start playing higher with the spare money you've made working irl. Play where a winning session is actually meaningful. And youd withdraw decent money every month.
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12-12-2015 , 01:12 PM
Wow what happened to BBV would someone troll this MF'er please? J/k

Yeah that's really sick. It's funny how we all want to say it's a skill game but even once you're competent, luck (in terms of variance) is a big enough factor to make you a rich and famous poker player or a nobody grinding for nickels for years. I commend you for not beating your head into a wall cause I'm not sure I could handle this - you must really love poker.

One thing:
Your winrate looks to be about 3bb/100
=300,000/100*0.30=$900

Which is not super high at $10NL, and would probably be much higher if you changed sites. As you probably know the higher your winrate the less you'll be affected by variance. Why not try to play on another site for a while? Even if you can't get the same volume your winrate will likely be much higher and variance much lower. I think there's no question you'll dominate every other site if you can handle a nightmare 300k hands like this vs. the toughest competition. Add in a little table selection, and you'll be playing against some 33+ vpip's ...... you'll be mad you didn't do it earlier.

Once you're on a site, I would just not look at EV. You have enough experience/skill to know you're playing correctly. EV is a lose/lose measure of your performance IMO.

Last edited by Nick_AA; 12-12-2015 at 01:19 PM.
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12-12-2015 , 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick_AA
Wow what happened to BBV would someone troll this MF'er please? J/k

Yeah that's really sick. It's funny how we all want to say it's a skill game but even once you're competent, luck (in terms of variance) is a big enough factor to make you a rich and famous poker player or a nobody grinding for nickels for years. I commend you for not beating your head into a wall cause I'm not sure I could handle this - you must really love poker.

One thing:
Your winrate looks to be about 3bb/100
=300,000/100*0.30=$900

Which is not super high at $10NL, and would probably be much higher if you changed sites. As you probably know the higher your winrate the less you'll be affected by variance. Why not try to play on another site for a while? Even if you can't get the same volume your winrate will likely be much higher and variance much lower. I think there's no question you'll dominate every other site if you can handle a nightmare 300k hands like this vs. the toughest competition. Add in a little table selection, and you'll be playing against some 33+ vpip's ...... you'll be mad you didn't do it earlier.

Once you're on a site, I would just not look at EV. You have enough experience/skill to know you're playing correctly. EV is a lose/lose measure of your performance IMO.
My winrate on regular tables 10nl is something like 5bb/100 and my evwinrate is 8bb/100 hands. Zoom has royally ****ed my winrate. I am down like -40BI and my EV is at +2$. 100% moving to another site, cba for stars anymore tbh. My true winrate on 10nl regular tables is prob alot higher tbh, I am gona be honest and say I spewed alot.
Any suggestions for sites? Thought about moving to BCP or 888. Was gona move to partypoker but i ran even worse there and the software is disgusting.
Sorta weird that no one is trolling tbh.

Last edited by mahsjdi; 12-12-2015 at 01:48 PM.
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12-12-2015 , 02:32 PM
move up stakes
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12-12-2015 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BigGameDame
move up stakes
I did to 25nl.
2 AA's 1 straight and 1 flush later I am back at 10nl
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12-12-2015 , 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick_AA
Wow what happened to BBV would someone troll this MF'er please? J/k

Yeah that's really sick. It's funny how we all want to say it's a skill game but even once you're competent, luck (in terms of variance) is a big enough factor to make you a rich and famous poker player or a nobody grinding for nickels for years. I commend you for not beating your head into a wall cause I'm not sure I could handle this - you must really love poker.

One thing:
Your winrate looks to be about 3bb/100
=300,000/100*0.30=$900

Which is not super high at $10NL, and would probably be much higher if you changed sites. As you probably know the higher your winrate the less you'll be affected by variance. Why not try to play on another site for a while? Even if you can't get the same volume your winrate will likely be much higher and variance much lower. I think there's no question you'll dominate every other site if you can handle a nightmare 300k hands like this vs. the toughest competition. Add in a little table selection, and you'll be playing against some 33+ vpip's ...... you'll be mad you didn't do it earlier.

Once you're on a site, I would just not look at EV. You have enough experience/skill to know you're playing correctly. EV is a lose/lose measure of your performance IMO.
This except for the last part. Always helps to know your actual vs EV

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12-12-2015 , 08:22 PM
It was established in another thread that the maximum run-badtime is 3 months. I am not gonna post the formulas, but if it has been longer than 3 months then you need to switch it up. I recommend that you watch twitch microplayers and see what they are doing.
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