**OFFICIAL PROP BET THREAD- WIN $100NL UGL FOR DEC 2010** - Page 54

No actions (chip dumping, collusion, ghosting/coaching players on Silent_0ne's tables, etc) can be taken with the intent to affect the outcome of the prop bet.

seems pretty clear fees' actions are affecting the propbet and definitely going to affect the outcome of the propbet if he wins UGL.

if fees wins UGL and OP is second, fees' actions will have caused OP to not win UGL, hence affecting the outcome of the propbet.

Not exactly sure how much more clearcut it can be

Even with all this aside, it's an unbelievable angleshoot and uber douchebag move. clearly money >>>>>>>>>>>> dignity for Mr. fees

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12-14-2010 , 07:40 PM

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David123

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lol wtf , if ppl would just read what jalex has posted you would know his position on this.

tumaterminator echoes what is probably the sad truth here.(couple posts above mine)

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12-14-2010 , 07:41 PM

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DPred123

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Originally Posted by MaliceUW

yo guys, fees just wants the 50nl badge, has nothing to do with the 25k wager

I hope this is a level or else you can *****

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12-14-2010 , 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DPred123

I hope this is a level or else you can *****

he mad

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12-14-2010 , 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jah Onion

seems pretty clear fees' actions are affecting the propbet and definitely going to affect the propbet if he wins UGL.

if fees wins UGL and OP is second, fees' actions will have caused OP to not win UGL.

All this aside, it's incredibly douchey to do this, lol.

this is an obvious misinterpretation of said rule

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12-14-2010 , 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DPred123

I hope this is a level or else you can *****

its obv sarcasm

I mean fees is a goddamn bfp coach, even if its technically not breaking any rules I think you'd value your reputation more than this

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what a dick

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12-14-2010 , 07:42 PM

#1332

so sick bro

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minus respect for fees. Pretty scummy man.

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12-14-2010 , 07:43 PM

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calvinzorr

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Originally Posted by DPred123

I hope this is a level or else you can *****

U got leveled bro

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12-14-2010 , 07:43 PM

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Sublimemoment

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Originally Posted by fees

Hey,

Just to clear a few things up,

1. I haven't broken any rules, there isn't a rule that explicitly states that I cannot win the UGL.
2. I'm not trying to scam/do anything shady/etc, when I made the bet I posted in this thread asking if a bettor could win the UGL, "Handbaggio" posted

no one refuted it or said otherwise, jalex said rementioned that no one could battleship to one up him on the UGL, so it was my understanding that if I wanted I could win the UGL.

anyway I'm going to try and win the 50nl UGL this month... I haven't done anything wrong and there is nothing wrong with me going for it.

gl

edit: I'm not going to be posting much in this thread, so please no questions, etc.

You're a ****ing tool.

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12-14-2010 , 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tumaterminator

this is an obvious misinterpretation of said rule

why/how?

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12-14-2010 , 07:44 PM

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Manyfold

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Hey fees. Why you suck this much?
Silent: just keep focused keep grinding and gogogo.

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12-14-2010 , 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tumaterminator

lol fees is totally right here.

there is no "spirit of the bet clause" -- epic fail by silent and jalex (presuming jalex helped draft it)

the only rule that could possibly hinder fees is #1, which states no one can sit with silent if they aren't a reg at that limit. fees can win ugl while avoiding silent.

LOLOL if it goes fees silent 1-2.

so u don't think fees is playing 50nl away from his normal stakes to affect the outcome of the bet? cuz that's a rule

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12-14-2010 , 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by King Fish

I sincerely hope some nosebleed players get together and start bumhunting fees for the next few months.

Not just an angle shooter, but taking advantage of a SS grinder out of his element. The $2.5k he had to win was relative peanuts and there is no point for him to have been involved from the getgo.

Seriously just about the lowest form of poker scum there is in my mind. Cheating is cheating, and he is an angle shooting cheating pos who can't even admit to having ulterior motives playing nl50.

Classless bully.

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Silent has already won Fees' money, IMO.

+1

couldnt agree more

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12-14-2010 , 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by fees

anyway I'm going to try and win the 50nl UGL this month... I haven't done anything wrong and there is nothing wrong with me going for it.

You sold your reputation very cheaply in my opinion.

I really hope this awful angle fails and costs you the money as wel.l.

And just like you I'll add gl to the end of my post although I don't mean it either.

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12-14-2010 , 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tumaterminator

lol fees is totally right here.

there is no "spirit of the bet clause" -- epic fail by silent and jalex (presuming jalex helped draft it)

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jalexand42 will be the judge and escrow for this bet. There is no prior relationship between jalexand42 and Silent_0ne prior to this prop bet. Judging will be done with the intent of enforcing fairness and the spirit of the rules

fairness = no ****ing epic angleshoots perhaps?

pretty sure even if you don't think the wording of this rule goes against what fees is doing, then the "spirit of the rule" is:

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No actions ([...]etc) can be taken with the intent to affect the outcome of the prop bet.

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12-14-2010 , 07:46 PM

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Wow what a cluster****. Silent just keep playing your game and wait for a ruling from the judge(s). Switching to HU to **** with Fees for the next 24 hours isnt gonna do anything.

What exactly was the language of the bet you had with him. Is WCGRider only the escrow or also the judge.

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12-14-2010 , 07:47 PM

#1342

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fees has already effected the bet by taking money off the tables, not sure what he was thinking when playing 50nl being a 25/50 reg...

intresting that fees and wcgrider are good friends, wonder if thats going to effect this in anyway

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12-14-2010 , 07:48 PM

#1343

Vrange

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Go Silent - you can take this down if you stay off tilt. I hope the pokergods will show some justice to fees when he returns to his normal stakes. Runbad for 200k hands seems fair.

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12-14-2010 , 07:49 PM

#1344

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2. Actions must be in accordance with the intent of having a fair prop bet. No actions (chip dumping, collusion, ghosting/coaching players on Silent_0ne's tables, etc) can be taken with the intent to affect the outcome of the prop bet. Violations will result in the violator's action being forfeited and may result in additional modification/extention to neutralize the interference.

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Originally Posted by Tumaterminator

this is an obvious misinterpretation of said rule

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Originally Posted by Jah Onion

why/how?

1. Fair prop bet = following the rules.

2. No actions (chip dumping, collusion, ghosting/coaching players on Silent_0ne's tables, etc)

fees isn't doing any of the above, and the phrase et cetera wouldn't extend to "fees winning UGL" because fees winning ugl would not fit the list described. he isn't cheating the game of poker.

whether it's absurd or not is a different story. but this is the nature of prop betting. which is why it's standard to have spirit of the bet rule + multiple judges.

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12-14-2010 , 07:49 PM

#1345

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there is a rule that no bettor may intend to affect the outcome of the propbet.

i root for silent, but i understand jalex takes time to decide.

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12-14-2010 , 07:50 PM

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silent, DEFINITELY don't start playing HU. you're doing great so far, keep doing it.

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12-14-2010 , 07:51 PM

#1347

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Originally Posted by Tumaterminator

You're missing a huge part of that sentence. Read more plainly it says "no actions can be taken with the intent to affect the outcome of the prop bet. Violations will result in the violator's action being forfeited and may result in additional modification/extention to neutralize the interference"

How is this anything but an action by a bettor with the intent to affect the outcome of the prop bet? Fees Loses. GG

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12-14-2010 , 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tumaterminator

1. Fair prop bet = following the rules.

2. No actions (chip dumping, collusion, ghosting/coaching players on Silent_0ne's tables, etc)

fees isn't doing any of the above, and the word et cetera wouldn't extend to "fees winning UGL" because fees winning ugl would not fit the list described. he isn't cheating the game of poker.

whether it's absurd or not is a different story. but this is the nature of prop betting. which is why it's standard to have spirit of the bet rule + multiple judges.

fees winning ugl would fit the criteria of an action which is affecting outcome of bet. that and the fact that fees is a HS reg makes it an angleshoot all the way.

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12-14-2010 , 07:53 PM

#1349

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Originally Posted by Jah Onion

fees winning ugl would fit the criteria of an action which is affecting outcome of bet. that and the fact that fees is a HS reg makes it an angleshoot all the way.

I would agree but the list of ways you could do this + "etc." are far in away nowhere close to what fees is doing.

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12-14-2010 , 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Silent_0ne

4. In the event of challenging circumstances, the judge will consult with well known, respected 2p2'ers for opinions on a fair resolution. Any individuals consulted will be revealed and will be disinterested parties to this prop bet.

Good luck everyone!

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