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Nearing 5 month downswing, plausible for winning player? Nearing 5 month downswing, plausible for winning player?

05-28-2011 , 05:58 PM
you complain more than an old lady. just quit poker before busto.
05-28-2011 , 10:40 PM
title should be 5 month rant about how bad i play come and read all about it? maybe?

and no it's not (plausible for a winning player) ur just a loser like 95% of all online players

get over it
05-29-2011 , 07:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by biggy333
title should be 5 month rant about how bad i play come and read all about it? maybe?

and no it's not (plausible for a winning player) ur just a loser like 95% of all online players

get over it
rofl, play me

in b4 u wont, and cant back up ur words like 95% of repliers ITT
05-29-2011 , 10:00 AM
No its not plausible for a winning player try the stock market
05-29-2011 , 10:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Send The Gravy
No its not plausible for a winning player try the stock market
Appreciate u guys like a flame, but please dont spread ignorance like you know what you're talking about. The downswing was about 9 months, 240k hands, and although quite rare, more possible than you will ever admit to yourself.

Just still running bad and lacking any kind of upswing. Mixing my games between 4-tabling Midstakes MTT's, 10-tabling low SNG's and a few HU cash games to keep any kind of sanity.

Last edited by buck22; 05-29-2011 at 10:31 AM.
05-29-2011 , 02:36 PM
Compliments on keeping this crazy blog thing of yours going. Any celebrations planned for 18 month or 2 year milestones of being a winning player who is not winning?

By the way, toss in random quotes from Scarface when doing the over the top, emotional heads up challenge to the world replies as that will make them more festive.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086250/quotes

All the best.
05-29-2011 , 02:43 PM
this thread is horrible and clearly a blog. It's basically some old drunk complaining about everything then asking for hu to e1 in the street

why no one is closing this **** ?

Last edited by omnishakira; 05-29-2011 at 02:44 PM. Reason: gtfo op
05-29-2011 , 03:48 PM
so, did u take any of my advice? or still the same mindset?
05-29-2011 , 05:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoLimitLeagues
so, did u take any of my advice? or still the same mindset?
Ye mindset and game is fine, but aslong as im running astronomically under EV, I'm gonna be angry, frustrated and paranoid, im human. Think about the last time your AA got cracked 5 times in a row and now imagine that for 14 months with barely a let up, head-f**k.

Same ol same ol, play good, get it in good, get sucked out on, break mouse, rinse and repeat. Like I said a year ago, this bad luck can't carry on for too much longer, right?
05-29-2011 , 05:32 PM
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (2 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($59.70)
Hero (BB) ($67.64)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7, 5
SB bets $1, Hero raises $4, SB calls $3.25

Flop: ($9) Q, 8, 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $4.10, Hero raises $12.50, SB calls $8.40

Turn: ($34) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $14.50, SB calls $14.50

River: ($63) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $36.14 (All-In), SB calls $28.20 (All-In)

Total pot: $119.40

Results:
SB had A, J (two pair, Queens and sixes).
Hero had 7, 5 (two pair, Queens and sixes).
Outcome: SB won $118.40

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No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (2 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($129.52)
Hero (BB) ($51.33)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, 4
SB bets $1, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.50) K, 5, 10 (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.50) A (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $4, Hero calls $4

River: ($13.50) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $10.25, Hero calls $10.25

Total pot: $34

Results:
SB had K, A (two pair, Aces and Kings).
Hero had A, 4 (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: SB won $33



Get in good lolololol

Just give up, you were a fish on a heater to start with then things averaged itself out and your true skills (lack of) have come to light since playing for some time.

Please post the 5 x AA cracked or whatever to prove how unlucky (er i mean bad) you are?
05-29-2011 , 05:38 PM
Just read your last post again - get sucked out on? you ship with 0% equity and wonder why your losing?

mwahahahahahaha

Your a funny guy and i do laugh every time i read this thread - please let this be a level and really your taking the piss?

Oh your not! And you carry on spouting drivel for 12 months solid about losing money. The only way your gonna stop losing money is if you stop?
05-29-2011 , 05:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Monteroy
Any celebrations planned for 18 month or 2 year milestones of being a winning player who is not winning?
wp
05-29-2011 , 06:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by biggy333
Just read your last post again - get sucked out on? you ship with 0% equity and wonder why your losing?

mwahahahahahaha

Your a funny guy and i do laugh every time i read this thread - please let this be a level and really your taking the piss?

Oh your not! And you carry on spouting drivel for 12 months solid about losing money. The only way your gonna stop losing money is if you stop?
who said i was losing? Last time I checked I havent worked in 5 years, u fiok wif me u fok wif tha best !!! (missed ur post 1st time around monteray, glad u still care)
05-29-2011 , 11:19 PM
I pop on this forum every few weeks, and if your thing is near the top I open it, though I certainly miss a ton of the content as I never bother to go over past posts.

You have energy, but no real focus. Passion, but no real direction. You probably have some potential, but the inability to really tap into it, which is why you are pretty much in the identical place you have been for years.

I screw around in the huge rigged thread in the internet poker forum which is like a static bubble in time of conspiracy light guys arguing with mainly non-playing logical guys determined to change the minds of people who will never change, because they need to believe that the deal is rigged.

You kind of work the same way, though you are not a riggie. You need this bubble world, and while it sustains you, it severely limits you as well. I have fun visiting once in a while and tweaking it, but I know it will never burst and a year from now this thread will be the same it is now, just like I said a while ago in it that it would be the same (and it is).

Shame about your untapped potential that you will never appreciate, and likely you will dismiss my comments as you dismiss everything, and that is fine. You need to do that, and continue with what you have created.

Better luck at the tables. Perhaps this year will be different.
05-30-2011 , 12:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Monteroy
I pop on this forum every few weeks, and if your thing is near the top I open it, though I certainly miss a ton of the content as I never bother to go over past posts.

You have energy, but no real focus. Passion, but no real direction. You probably have some potential, but the inability to really tap into it, which is why you are pretty much in the identical place you have been for years.

I screw around in the huge rigged thread in the internet poker forum which is like a static bubble in time of conspiracy light guys arguing with mainly non-playing logical guys determined to change the minds of people who will never change, because they need to believe that the deal is rigged.

You kind of work the same way, though you are not a riggie. You need this bubble world, and while it sustains you, it severely limits you as well. I have fun visiting once in a while and tweaking it, but I know it will never burst and a year from now this thread will be the same it is now, just like I said a while ago in it that it would be the same (and it is).

Shame about your untapped potential that you will never appreciate, and likely you will dismiss my comments as you dismiss everything, and that is fine. You need to do that, and continue with what you have created.

Better luck at the tables. Perhaps this year will be different.
Appreciate the analysis, pretty good but im not a true riggie and I don't need a bubble, more an outlet of my frustration at running about as bad as one can in this game that promised money would follow skill all these years...

Saying that I just took down my 3rd tourny of the month, SHIP IT!!!!!!!!!!!

05-30-2011 , 09:34 AM
Stop looking at the past and drive for the future. Stop **** moaning about bad beat ****... Get the same idiots on these forums complaining about bad beats 24/7. Its poker what do you expect?

Buck22 no hating but stop being a whiny bitch and do something positive.
05-30-2011 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Swire
Stop looking at the past and drive for the future. Stop **** moaning about bad beat ****... Get the same idiots on these forums complaining about bad beats 24/7. Its poker what do you expect?

Buck22 no hating but stop being a whiny bitch and do something positive.
Like ship it?
05-31-2011 , 08:56 AM
Wow, this is an epic thread. Good start for my first post here after almost two years.

OP, I'd like to give my 2 cents on two posts you've made a couple of pages earlier.

Quote:
Originally Posted by buck22
OH the cold decks just wont leave me the f**k alone!!! still running it at 19bb/100 but f**k me if my opponents haven't been god, god and f**king god!

Just so sick winning every pot with bluffs and thin bets then loosing the lot plus $200 to some f**ker that gets dealt set v TPTK, FH over N.flush etc. How the f**k do I have these evil runs for 50k, 100K and 200k hands?

It's not the money, 19bb/100 is awesome, but the never ending coolers do my nut in.

RAH RAH RAH!
You've said several times that you're content with your game, and that you're still playing your A game. Now I wonder if your A game might have flaws that you're not willing to accept.

You seem to be focused on winning pots, so you frequently seize on bluffing opportunities while you're playing a very LAG style. I believe you're quite exploitable if you're prepared to stack off with TPTK once somebody finally plays back at you.

Yes, maybe opponents get pissed off at your constant aggression and spazz out with subprime hands. But there's also the very likely possibility that they're exploiting you by backing off to more of your bluffs in the secure knowledge that they're going to stack you once they flopped better than TPTK.

Of course, I've got no idea about the table dynamics and your notes and reads but it surely wouldn't hurt you to investigate whether you are outlevelling yourself.

Quote:
Originally Posted by buck22
Well whattdyaknow!!! Pull myself together for another seesion and down another 6 WHORING BUYINS!!! TPTK v set, flopped trips v TPTK, ran 2 buyins under EV, all against the same ***** maniac that just ran like f**king god an hour ago for 6 of my buyins.

IT JUST NEVER F***ING STOPS!!!!!!!!!
Maybe you also lose perspective once in a while. Are you really sure you're opponent is a maniac? You're playing pretty aggressively, too, don't you? When I was playing HU, I labelled someone a maniac if there were a lot of 3-bet-shoves and frequent overbets etc. From the outside, the situations appear like you're being rope-a-doped.

Also please note that I've not written the above and the following to insult you in any sense.

I just happen to know a thing or two about the impact of mindset and ego on someone's game.

I've been working as a chess teacher for some years now and I've come across a lot of players who cannot acknowledge faults in their thinking even if their life depended on it. They would always rationalise their decisions and plans as being good or sufficient, yet their ELO rating stagnates.

If they knew everything and played perfectly most of the time, they should be grandmasters already, but they aren't. Those player types often blame a defeat on a blunder, and thus they won't accept any criticism on their play before the blunder. This is the equivalent to being results-oriented in poker.

Maybe we'll meet each other on Stars in the feature. I've just started to grind up a roll again after going bust due to a freaking car accident that gobbeled up my roll two years ago - a mighty black swan to happen during bankroll building (-:

Cheers
06-01-2011 , 12:14 PM
Def very important concepts to be aware of when playing a LAG style, self ownage and fancy play syndrome can easily sink a roll. I don't have a rigid style and my game is based on exploiting whatever style my opp plays, LAG just happens to generally exploit most players best.

Poker is the ultimate game for delusion and confusion, so it's tough to make a case that you have been out-playing your opponents well enough but variance picked you out of thousands of winning players to shaft for 14 months. Not surprised noone believes me, would have to have been standing behind me for my last 400k hands to really know.

I have only felt under pressure from 2 opponents since starting this thread and that is from my HU games with bumblebee (or whatever the name was) and smellmuth.

Just to clarify, this ISNT a 14month downswing, Im currently around 65 buyins under EV and up $8k 400k hands, broke even for 300k with a troff of around -$9k, and am up around $8k over the 400k hands.

Good luck with take 2 of the bankroll Viik, keep us updated on how you get on
06-07-2011 , 01:15 PM
NOT A MOAN:

So running bad but pulled it back into profit last year, made a bit in HU this year and binked 7 tournies since start of may. But how long can my EV sink for? Is it faintly ridiculous or very possible?

In b4 EV doesnt matter, it very much does! It's just not the COMPLETE picture as it doesn't factor in other luck factors that may be balancing out your overall luck.

It has been 15 months, around 420k hands, and been sinking under EV the whole time. Could a roulette table run under EV for this long? EVER?
06-07-2011 , 01:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ketlar
Hire a couch
More relaxed than on a chair. Would help for sure!
06-07-2011 , 03:19 PM
f u buck
06-07-2011 , 03:28 PM
you could try switching to tourneys, maybe you're better at them. (srs post)

Spoiler:
not variance though, sry
06-07-2011 , 03:51 PM
sorry to bring u tards back to the point but...

Quote:
How long can one sink under EV for?
(not u xereles, obv u my biggest fan)
06-08-2011 , 02:46 AM
chance has no memory so obv. your question cannot be answered

      
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