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05-30-2018 , 03:21 PM
Coors light is the best of the 'common' light beers.

stella is whatev

I've been on a pilsner urquel kick lately.
05-30-2018 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by stinkypete
I wouldn't read too much into anything a coors light drinker says
I'll go back to drinking real beer when I stop drinking a gallon of alcohol every day and become a normal social drinker again.

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Originally Posted by DonJuan
++1 makes a lot of sense now. I went from donjuanmt to donjuan that a huge jump in boldness. No hard feeling Sean it my bday it that one time of the year where I get excited about reading horoscope and looking up HERO
It's all good. Happy birthday.

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Originally Posted by Rob...Chill
Couple questions. I've put basically 0 time/effort into improving/solving anything to do with limit holdem in the last 5 years. Has i spent this time doing nothing but working on limit holdem, how much better off would I be, fractions of a bb/hour (lets assume I was pretty decent 5 years ago at least).
Since I mostly play live anyways is it even applicable, since its just super exploitve play anyways.
Depends on what you play. If you play mostly/only LHE, working on your game with software that has been released in the past few years is probably extremely valuable. I've been playing live again for a about 14 months and about 1600 hours. I've played a grand total of 4 or 5 sessions of LHE higher than 40/80 in that time, so LHE is pretty much at the absolute bottom of my list of things to devote time to. Based on <20 hours of LHE work with solvers it was rather obvious that the toughest online players pre black friday had a pretty rudimentary approach to the game and that the Bovada 10/20+ games (I played 25k hands or so in 2016 when I was sick of NL for a month) were quite soft so I have no doubt that DonJuan's efforts have resulted in him being far above his competition. He plays only LHE, it makes sense that he would go above and beyond to create an edge for himself, and he's fortunate that most his opponents haven't put that work in.

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Now, Im sure its different for people overseas, but from my perspective it looks like Sean is doing everything right and being able to beat hi stakes mix/big bet live games is going to be infintelymore valuable than anything else you can do with your time.
Kinda sorta. I only started playing mix again because the games were very good, very consistent, were a great social experience, and the biggest NLHE game I had access to seemed like it was dying. Now all that's left in mix is the great social experience. I have access to other games but I also have 0 desire to regularly play a mix game featuring 0 big bet games. I'd honestly rather play 5/10 NL (where it will often become 5/10/20) than sit around all day playing 200/400 BHT or even worse, some all limit game mix including badacey and badeucey, the scourges of poker. If I had just stuck with NLHE since July, I'd probably be in about the same spot I'm in right now with lower fluctuations and without the burden of having a lease in LA for a house I've stayed in <30 nights since November. Now I need to shift my focus back to NLHE where it should have been to begin with, along with NL Omaha/PLO and short deck holdem since those are the most likely other things I'll have an opportunity to play.

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Originally Posted by avoidthe9to5
stella you fker who the hell drinks coors light?
Alcoholics that need to drink for 12+ hours a day and consume the least amount of calories they can.

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Originally Posted by bicyclekick
Coors light is the best of the 'common' light beers.
Coors light #1, Ultra #2 imo

Kirin light is much better than both, unfortunately I don't have time to go to Bevmo every day or take up residence in a sushi restaurant.
05-30-2018 , 04:30 PM
sean if you get that mix going after wsop let me know, id be down to play that like once a month.
05-30-2018 , 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by AlanBostick
Stella is just Heineken for Walloons.
nah its for dumb foreigners who would rather drink imported piss than any of about a million better and less expensive local options... as is heineken
05-30-2018 , 05:52 PM
Private games seem fun + profitable but an easy way to get scammed.
05-30-2018 , 06:49 PM
whats the best beer if you dont like IPA? im a stella/heineken peasant.

#1 on my power rankings is tsingtao but im not sure i could tell the diff from heineken in blind test.
05-30-2018 , 08:23 PM
For me it would be a Pale Ale, Red Ale, or Pilsner.
05-30-2018 , 09:17 PM
I like Fat Tire Ale.
05-30-2018 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Clayton
whats the best beer if you dont like IPA? im a stella/heineken peasant.
go to a good craft brewery and do some tasting flights and figure out what you do like

i basically only drink sour beers now whenever it's an option, but i'd never try to claim it's objectively the best style, even though it clearly is, objectively speaking
05-31-2018 , 03:10 AM
lmfao <3
05-31-2018 , 06:23 AM
I really like Weissbier
05-31-2018 , 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Clayton
whats the best beer if you dont like IPA? im a stella/heineken peasant.

#1 on my power rankings is tsingtao but im not sure i could tell the diff from heineken in blind test.
So those are all pilsners. Light color and taste, thin/watery, low bitterness. Pilsners sit in the lager family. What do you think of Sam Adams? A little darker, a little thicker, just a touch of hops/bitterness. Too much?

What about Negro Modello? A Vienna Lager made in Mexico, darker in color but very mild otherwise, great w a lime.

Maybe try a wheat beer aka Hefeweizen. Start w Blue Moon and explore from there.
05-31-2018 , 08:51 AM
To plug a familiar face, SoCal Brew Bus is a good LA option for beer tours. Here in the Boulder/Longmont area craft beer choices are endless. Time for Brew Bus 2?
05-31-2018 , 08:54 AM
goat pilsner btw:


Although I gotta say it tasted a lot better in Laos than when I tried their export.
05-31-2018 , 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by DougL
You can ask some of the LHE posters around these forums in the "I don't play garbage" and "tight is right" camps.


In NL I'd suspect it is due to being lost in a big bet game post flop, so playing only nutted hands might help someone clueless. Don't think jdr said you want to, only that you could and still profit.
Ya basically. Personally I'd be limping along some stuff in position (like Q9s/22/etc isn't going into the muck preflop) and adding some more value hands from earlier position, like AJo and 77 UTG. But waiting for the nuts and stacking someone in a low SPR 6 way pot works just fine IMO.
05-31-2018 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by stinkypete
go to a good craft brewery and do some tasting flights and figure out what you do like



i basically only drink sour beers now whenever it's an option, but i'd never try to claim it's objectively the best style, even though it clearly is, objectively speaking


Have you tried any of the Avery sours? Those are my jam.
05-31-2018 , 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Clayton
sean if you get that mix going after wsop let me know, id be down to play that like once a month.
If/when I give up on LA, the only mix I'll be playing is the ones that accidentally find me. Last week I found 40/80 BT+5/10 PLO+20/40 NL deuce. Last night I found 10/25 holdem+25/50 nl deuce. I may die soon from alcoholism but at least I'll be in a good poker game when it happens

When places start being ok with spreading short deck, I'm going to be trying pretty hard to make that a thing anywhere I am because 1. It was really fun in my limited play time, 2. I think it's a better way to play poker and will be around for a long time
05-31-2018 , 01:50 PM
i had heard about your [40/80+5/10plo+20/40nldeuce] in my cardroom but noticed that it was popping right before vegas so didn't think it'd become a regular thing

higher mix used to be a staple down here but i guess it moved over to hawaiian gardens after the palomar raids

would love to see short deck happen
05-31-2018 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Munga30
So those are all pilsners. Light color and taste, thin/watery, low bitterness. Pilsners sit in the lager family. What do you think of Sam Adams? A little darker, a little thicker, just a touch of hops/bitterness. Too much?

What about Negro Modello? A Vienna Lager made in Mexico, darker in color but very mild otherwise, great w a lime.

Maybe try a wheat beer aka Hefeweizen. Start w Blue Moon and explore from there.
thanks i'll give those a look
05-31-2018 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheRail15
Have you tried any of the Avery sours? Those are my jam.
I believe Ive tried at least one but my beer memory sucks. I think a raspberry one

To the dude saying "wheat beer aka hefeweizen"... No. That's kinda like saying "malt beer aka lager". Hefeweizens are disgusting, other wheat beer styles like Gose are amazing.
05-31-2018 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Clayton
thanks i'll give those a look
I would definitely explore various lagers, such as Helles, Vienna, or even some of the darker ones. Oktoberfest beers will be coming out soon, and I would recommend trying a variety of those. These should be a pretty easy transition from pilsners.

For a change of pace, check out some stouts (not Guinness) or porters. Dark and not typically very hoppy, so they won't be anything like IPAs.

Don't miss out on Belgian ales.
05-31-2018 , 02:15 PM
I really don't get the allure of playing with a short deck. I get how it could make for more action in the short term as people adjust to the change in hand values, but I don't see how it would be more fun, or better for the game in the long run.
05-31-2018 , 02:30 PM
IT'S HAPPENING. WSOP TIME!
05-31-2018 , 02:37 PM
05-31-2018 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
I really don't get the allure of playing with a short deck. I get how it could make for more action in the short term as people adjust to the change in hand values, but I don't see how it would be more fun, or better for the game in the long run.
The short run is longer than you think. And once it dies, something new will catch on. The willingness to accept new games is great for the long run.

Playing the same game forever is only good for the nits who aren't very smart but are willing to grind solver solutions harder than everyone else

      
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